How to fine-tune your suspension with bump stops and helper springs

Andy
By Andy Hollis
Sep 25, 2024 | suspension, Suspension & Handling, Coil-overs, Helper Springs, Bump Stops | Posted in Suspension & Handling , Features | From the Dec. 2023 issue | Never miss an article

Photography Credit: Chris Tropea

Does it rub?

We see this question asked and answered every day in online forums with respect to wheel-and-tire packages, especially when it comes to lowered cars. 

The answers often provide conflicting information due to varied alignment, ride height, spring rates and coil-over packaging. Having the right combination of parts on your car is only half the battle. Dialing it all in optimally is key to maximizing performance. 

Since our Triple Threat ND-chassis Miata serves as our primary test mule for tire testing–see elsewhere in this issue–we wanted to be able to fit common motorsports-oriented wheel-and-tire packages without significant inner fender contact. When we first installed a set of RedShift Competition dampers, we went through a bevy of spring rates to find a combination that provided a range of suspension movement suitable for track use without compromising streetability. 

A fair bit of track testing helped us determine the best spring rates for our setup: 10K fronts along with 4K rears. (In standard units, that would mean 560 lbs./in. fronts and 224 lbs./in. rears.) This combination provided the fastest lap times along with street manners that we could live with. 

But we still had a problem: The supplied bump stops were too short for our needs and allowed for more rubbing than we’d like. 

What’s a Bump Stop?

For any given road or track, the spring rate will mostly determine the suspension travel–assuming it’s properly damped and doesn’t allow any physical contact. Stiffer springs allow less travel, which accommodates lowered ride heights, which in turn offers both handling and aero benefits. 

But there will always be a bump in some road severe enough to exceed that damped spring, so we needed something to limit the travel and prevent the shock from bottoming out in extreme situations. That’s where the aptly named bump stop comes into play.

Think of bump stops as pieces of rubber or similarly soft material that act as progressive-rate springs. They come in all shapes and sizes. They’re usually found on the damper’s shaft, but they could be placed elsewhere in a suspension setup.


In most setups, bump stops float on the damper shaft and act as progressive rate springs when engaged. Photography Credit: Andy Hollis

In OE applications, they’re typically very long and have enough spring rate to provide smooth engagement throughout the suspension’s travel. Depending on the application, a vehicle might well often engage the bump stops, but in this case, that’s a good thing: Picture these bump stops acting as progressive rate springs when engaged. 

In motorsports, where travel is much more limited, bump stops are more of a fail-safe that prevents the damper from internally bottoming out. They also prevent body contact–like, say, a tire hitting an inner fender. A shorter, stiffer bump stop allows more use of the linear range of the primary spring, but that’s at the expense of a more abrupt change of rate upon impact.

Our RedShift coil-overs shipped with fairly short, stiff bump stops. We then added a spacer to limit compression travel to just shy of tire-to-inner fender interference. 


To measure how much spacer our bump stops needed, we first measured travel with our tires and FlyinMiata Kogeki wheels in place. Photography Credit: Andy Hollis

To make that spacer, we removed the spring from the coil-over, disconnected the anti-roll bar, pushed the bump stop down onto the shock body, and jacked up that corner of the suspension until contact was made. After lowering that corner of the suspension, the position of the bump stop showed us how much unusable travel we needed to eliminate. 

Then we simply cut a piece of Delrin rod. The good news is that this approach worked quite well to eliminate all body contact. The bad news is that this setup did so at the expense of total suspension travel. 

So, how could we gain back suspension travel? To maintain ride height when a stiffer spring is installed, the coil-over must be adjusted to compensate for the reduced static deflection.

With a one-piece damper, the lower perch is moved downward, which can leave the spring loose under extreme extension situations. With a two-piece design, like our RedShift units, the effective body length can be adjusted so the spring stays tight on its perches. A side effect of this approach is that droop travel is reduced in favor of bump.

Since we were making small, incremental changes and had plenty of available travel, we initially changed the body length. By the time we established our final spring choice, though, we had removed almost 1 inch of damper rebound travel, which translates to nearly 2inches at the wheels. Moreover, we had increased the potential for bump-induced tire contact by that same 1 inch, necessitating an even bigger spacer.


We initially cut a large spacer from Delrin, but installing helper springs allowed us to lower the bottom spring perch and regain shock travel. Photography Credit: Andy Hollis

This approach worked well on track, but a more elegant solution beckoned: helper springs. These low-rate add-ons fit underneath the primary springs to take up any slack yet have just enough rate to keep everything in place under full droop. This also helps keep the tire in contact with the road surface.

With helper springs in place, we could now adjust ride height via the lower spring perches, just as you would with a traditional, solid-body coil-over, and then use body length adjustment to dial in bump travel. Attention must be paid to minimum thread engagement on the damper body, however. In our case, we still had to run a small spacer even with the body length maxed out, but we got back most of our droop travel.

 With our basic ride heights and suspension travel sorted, the car was now ready for final corner weighting and an alignment check. 

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Comments
adam525i
adam525i GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/20/23 9:50 a.m.

What is the spring rate of your helper springs? Is it actually enough to overcome the shocks rebound control and keep that tire in contact with the ground over bumps/dips when the effective spring rate for the combination main/helper in series is so low when the helper is not locked out?

 

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
11/20/23 11:58 a.m.

Bumps stops as suspension, that will never work.

Mmm Tom, don't you race a Formula 500?

(sorry couldn't help it).

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/20/23 1:33 p.m.

I always thought it was better to put helper springs (especially the super-soft ones you can compress with your bare hands, not so much a concern with the thicker/stiffer ones like in this article) on top of the main spring so that the weight of the spring itself isn't pressing on the helper spring, unless the car is in negative Gs which should never happen. I worry that when the shock is fully extended the main spring might compress the helper spring a bit with its own weight and float off its seat.

Also it's relatively easy to make snap-on shims of different thicknesses you can install or remove from your shocks with almost no disassembly, Delrin is a great material for this:

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/experience-with-bump-stop-spacersshimspackers/225885/page1/

Andy Hollis
Andy Hollis
11/20/23 2:11 p.m.
adam525i said:

What is the spring rate of your helper springs? Is it actually enough to overcome the shocks rebound control and keep that tire in contact with the ground over bumps/dips when the effective spring rate for the combination main/helper in series is so low when the helper is not locked out?

 

Dampers are time-based so any amount of spring force will eventually extend the damper.  We found that it worked fine over the bump/dips at our local track...which is know for being quite bumpy (I should post a video...you'd be shocked.  Oh, look what I just did there :) )

Here's some 411 from Chris at Redshift.  We are only running the low rate helpers.  He also sent some higher rate helpers which we'll play with at a future time. 

Swift is sending the following springs:

H65-060-015 (x2) - these are 1.5k helpers with spring adapters which can be used front or rear.

H65-060-030 (x2) - these are 3k helpers with spring adapters which can be used in front.

 

Generally helpers/assist springs are either almost no rate or they are 20-30% of the main spring rate and can be engaged while the car is in motion.  So, I am sending 4 helpers along with the 203L 5k springs.  2 helpers are 1.5k and would work well in back but can also be used as low rate helpers for the front.  The other 2 helpers are 3k and would be a good match for the front.  So that gives you some options.

 

The higher rate helper will engage earlier, but when it does, the combined spring rate plummets (non-linear) and changes how the car feels.  So the 3k spring on the front may engage at times depending on swaybar, etc....  and it could help the tire stay in touch with the ground but will do so at the expense of doing it at a lower rate, and the balance of what helper spring rates to use is best done through testing.

Andy Hollis
Andy Hollis
11/20/23 2:19 p.m.
GameboyRMH said:

Also it's relatively easy to make snap-on shims of different thicknesses you can install or remove from your shocks with almost no disassembly, Delrin is a great material for this:

Yep.  Commonly called "packers".  And the print version of this story has a follow-on with commercial sourcing for these and other dial-in bits.

adam525i
adam525i GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/20/23 3:00 p.m.

In reply to Andy Hollis :

Thanks for the follow up! Very helpful. 

malibuguy
malibuguy GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
9/28/24 12:26 a.m.

I remember about 15~ years ago when working at another exhaust shop, I did some work on a few street cars for a customer that raced (races still) nationally and had a shop that specialized in a specific brand of car (to keep it vague).

He saw my then, first Tercel that was modified and prepped for mild track use as I was doing HPDE stuff then with Nasa.  We BSd back and forth a bit and I was still pretty green with suspension tuning.  I had ground control sleeves as any sort of real coilover was out of my budget.  I mentioned the car really needed more spring rate but I didnt want to over power the struts.  He asked about my bump stops (which were essentially nothing) and said something along the lines of "all the race cars, essentially corner on bumpstops, so try tall progressive units and trim from there". 

I played along like ok, but in my head I was like yeah right, why would you want to corner on bumpstops.  Well about 5 years ago I think it was, I started playing with bumpstops and it became very clear what he said.  I just wasnt there (in my head) to understand it yet.  Now its a main focus on all of my suspension work, personal and for current customers in my shop.  

Andy Hollis
Andy Hollis
9/28/24 5:46 a.m.

Timely story bump...I'm in the process of this exact thing now on one of my CRXs. 

Big aero adds a whole 'nuther element to this, as high downforce will push the car onto the bump stops now during any significant high speed action.

Getting the balance right between stiffer springs, helpers/tenders, and bump stops to maximize mechanical grip while providing appropriate "platform" for the aero to work properly is a bit of a black art.  Plus keeping it balanced both at low speed and high. 

I feel another GRM how-to story in the making...

red_stapler
red_stapler SuperDork
9/28/24 10:09 a.m.
Andy Hollis said:

I feel another GRM how-to story in the making...

"How we added 3rd elements to control the aero on our project CRX."

Article comes out on April 1st and "project CRX" is an IndyCar or GTP.

racerfink
racerfink UberDork
9/28/24 1:58 p.m.

How about something to diagnose what this car is doing mid-corner with the tire chirping.  I suspect it's not enough roll/too much rebound not letting the car transfer weight to the outside tires, but I have no experience with test and tune.

I'm sure you'll recognize the track, Andy.

 

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