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  • Dec. 20, 2008 10:39 p.m. stirpicult None

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___tan-2dr-all-books-runs-needs-battery-...

    owner has NOT CLUE what they have. it is not listed under any model name. if i had the cash, i would bid...but i am a poor grad student, so here it is for you guys.

  • jwdmotorsports

    Dec. 21, 2008 1:42 p.m. jwdmotorsports Reader

    Does anybody on here own one of these? Tell me why I am or am not interested in it other than the fact that it's a rare car.

    This is only about an hour away from me.

  • DILYSI Dave

    Dec. 21, 2008 2:00 p.m. DILYSI Dave SuperDork

    stirpicult wrote:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___tan-2dr-all-books-runs-needs-battery-...

    owner has NOT CLUE what they have. it is not listed under any model name. if i had the cash, i would bid...but i am a poor grad student, so here it is for you guys.

    It's listed as Starlet. What else would it be listed as?

  • Trans_Maro

    Dec. 21, 2008 2:05 p.m. Trans_Maro New Reader

    You're interested because it's RWD, weighs under 2000 lbs and a 4A-G fits in it fairly easily.

    I'd have it if I weren't so far away.

    The 40+ mpg with the stock engine isn't too bad either.

    Shawn

  • ae86andkp61

    Dec. 21, 2008 4:53 p.m. ae86andkp61 New Reader

    Yup...I had one of these and it was a blast. A flyweight underpowered blast, and I couldn't wipe the grin on my face. About 1750 pounds, short wheelbase, rear-wheel-drive, and 50mpg on the highway.

    They are a bit of a period piece. In other words, don't expect it to be refined or modern by 2008 standards, but I would rank one above a Pinto, Chevette, GLC, etc. Great base for a project. In Finland they build them into rally cars which can run with most anything else 2WD, and in the Carribbean and on the East Coast drag scene people build them into 10 sec/9 sec/8 sec. doorslammers!

    4A-G and rotary are the popular swaps. The stock K-series isn't the best candidate for heavy tuning, but can be fun with a tune-up, carb, and exhaust. I always wanted to fab a manifold for some individual motorcycle carbs and try that with a mild cam and a bit of porting, but just never got around to to it.

    The front suspension is struts, and there is aftermarket support to fit AE86 Corolla struts to the Starlet chassis for big brakes and a better aftermarket for shocks and springs. AE86 rear axle is another possible upgrade, but you need to either modify the Corolla axle housing to accept the Starlet upper links (angled inward Mustang or first-gen-RX-7 style) or modify the Starlet floorpan to accept the Corolla upper links and panhard. The stock Starlet 4-link seems to work just fine with skinny tires and/or loose surfaces. Once you put grippy wider rubber on it, it can bind and things can get interesting when you push the car hard on grippy asphalt. For that reason, I was going to make the Corolla axle and suspension fit the Starlet, but once again, never got around to it.

  • jwdmotorsports

    Dec. 21, 2008 5:04 p.m. jwdmotorsports Reader

    Do you have any good websites I should go check out?

    Did a quick search and didn't find a whole lot.

  • Stuc

    Dec. 21, 2008 5:37 p.m. Stuc HalfDork

    DILYSI Dave wrote:

    stirpicult wrote:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___tan-2dr-all-books-runs-needs-battery-...

    owner has NOT CLUE what they have. it is not listed under any model name. if i had the cash, i would bid...but i am a poor grad student, so here it is for you guys.

    It's listed as Starlet. What else would it be listed as?

    I think the seller updated the auction to include the name 'Starlet'

  • ae86andkp61

    Dec. 21, 2008 5:41 p.m. ae86andkp61 New Reader

    Online community: http://www.kp61.net

    American manufacturer of a few performance parts: http://www.technotoytuning.com

    Inspiration:

    4A-G power from Down Under (with good details on Corolla axle conversion): http://www.billzilla.org/starlet.htm

    NIIIICE 4A-G powered car recently purchased by an acquaintance: http://86exchange.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=109

    Lots of tech details on American project: http://www.esgarage.com/home.htm

    From Finland-overbored 5K-C (1500cc version of the stock Starlet engine) producing 190hp normally-aspirated!! http://www.royhkiomotorsport.fi/

    Japanese race car, in English: http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0804_sccp_1979_kp61_toyota_starlet/inde...

    Japanese 4A-G swap in Japanese: http://www.geocities.co.jp/MotorCity/1641/ap61/ap61_1.html

    SanFran area supercharged 4A-GZE-powered autocross car: http://members.tripod.com/geegirl65/

    YouTube vid-7.2@183mph!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HRx2lf8yt4 7.2@185!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xf5mo8QI3Y

    My humble Starlet back when I had it: http://www.sidewaystoyota.com/kp61.html

  • PHeller

    Dec. 21, 2008 7:42 p.m. PHeller Reader

    I'd be all over that if it were closer...I don't have any way of getting it back from Alabama.

  • Dec. 21, 2008 11:53 p.m. stirpicult New Reader

    DILYSI Dave wrote:

    stirpicult wrote:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___tan-2dr-all-books-runs-needs-battery-...

    owner has NOT CLUE what they have. it is not listed under any model name. if i had the cash, i would bid...but i am a poor grad student, so here it is for you guys.

    It's listed as Starlet. What else would it be listed as?

    it wasn't listed as anything when i posted it. just "toyota". you can see under "questions from other members" that 2 people ask what type of toyota is it.

  • jwdmotorsports

    Dec. 30, 2008 9:39 p.m. jwdmotorsports Reader

    So, how much is this thing worth (or, how much would you pay for it)

    I emailed the guy right after the auction ended without meeting the reserve. He finally emailed me back and said that the best offer he's had on it so far is $550.

    I haven't been to look at it yet (about an hour away.) Worth looking into or pass?

  • DILYSI Dave

    Dec. 30, 2008 11:31 p.m. DILYSI Dave SuperDork

    Worth somewhere between $480 and $550.

  • ae86andkp61

    Jan. 1, 2009 5:48 p.m. ae86andkp61 New Reader

    I sold mine for $500 with relative ease, and felt like that was a fair price.

  • jwdmotorsports

    Jan. 1, 2009 7:18 p.m. jwdmotorsports Reader

    I was thinking $500. If he already has an offer for $550 he's not going to take $500. Guess I'm going to let this one go.

  • ManofFewWords

    Jan. 1, 2009 10:01 p.m. ManofFewWords Reader

    You might be surprised what he will sell it for. I have closed alot of deals because as I usually put it, " I have $XXX cash in hand, a truck and car trailer, and can pick up ASAP". Most "offers" are BS.

 
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