Hey gang,
Anyone got an assembled MS ecu collecting dust? I'm looking to get started fuel injecting my Kawasaki KZ400 on the cheap.
thanks,
Mike
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Feb. 8, 2010 4:53 p.m. problemaddict Reader
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Feb. 8, 2010 4:57 p.m. John Brown MegaDork
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Feb. 8, 2010 7:26 p.m. problemaddict Reader
Thanks JB but I can't see it w/o registering
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Feb. 8, 2010 7:39 p.m. John Brown MegaDork
I will copy and paste the link tomorrow.
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Feb. 8, 2010 9:20 p.m. Pat Reader
Mike,
Hit up Cliff and Lee Sebring. Last I heard, Lee was going to sell off a MS he picked up and never used.
Pat
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Feb. 9, 2010 6:48 a.m. CarKid1989 HalfDork
why are you looking to MSEFI a KZ?
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Feb. 9, 2010 7:21 a.m. John Brown MegaDork
MERKURSPORT DUDE said:
MS1 V3.0 built by me direct coil control using the tfi for rpm no idle control setup to use high or low imp. injectors
Was ran for awhile on my TT 5.0
also have a relay board (assembled) and a complete relay cable.
I will include the serial to usb adapter, stimilator and all the extra components i have for it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/Fra.../DSC00002-1.jpg relay cable not pictured but included
will do trades for a drop in roller cam for a 2.3 and an adjustible cam gear. I will consider trades for other performance parts 2.3 or merkur related. I have a Ranger Roller cam . I can't find the adjustable gear, though. Interested?
$350 shipped.
I will contact them with your info if you are interested.
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Feb. 9, 2010 7:22 a.m. John Brown MegaDork
CarKid1989 wrote:
why are you looking to MSEFI a KZ?
So you will want to buy it.
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Feb. 9, 2010 9:33 a.m. problemaddict Reader
CarKid1989 wrote:
why are you looking to MSEFI a KZ?
A. I hate carbs (because i'm clueless about semi-controlled fuel leaks). I can only get this thing to run w/ the choke on. I've rebuilt and fiddled w/ the carbs and I give up. I was about to give in and pay a local guy to get it running. Then realized that for similar $$ i could try MSefi.
B. I've always wanted to MS -something-
C. I plan to turbocharge it and go after the 400cc land-speed records at Maxton (@ 130mph in the blown/fuel class)
D. I was going to buy another bike for Maxton use. But i've already got this one. And it was free...
E. I'm a glutton for punishment. (see screenname)
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Feb. 9, 2010 8:05 p.m. CarKid1989 HalfDork
what all do you need to convert a bike to MSEFI, assuming you started with a carbed bike.
Power gain from carb to EFI?
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Feb. 10, 2010 9:26 a.m. Spinout007 HalfDork
It's called comfort zones and "WHY THE @#$@# NOT?" it was free! let the man do as he wishes with his money pit! I had Nitrous on a GEO at one point, and when asked why??? my answer was "Because I CAN!" lol
Seriously there's prob not a whole lot of performance to be gained, but if he's comfortable turbo'n a EFI system vs a carb, so be it.
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Feb. 10, 2010 4:21 p.m. problemaddict Reader
Thanks for defending me, Spinout, but I don't think CarKid was on the attack. Just curious I'd guess...
I've heard anywhere from 5-15% gains, but thats usually quoted for auto engines. I don't expect much from the conversion alone. I just understand FI better than carbs. and when i go to turbo it, its A LOT easier to hook up the laptop and tweak than it is to remove/tweak/replace;remove/tweak/replace;repeat with the carbs.
What do i need? according to MSefi.com:
In order to make the MegaSquirt® controller work on YOUR car, boat, chainsaw, or whatever, you will need:
* Tools and ability to assemble and test an electronic printed circuit board, * Additional parts to suit your installation, including: o Coolant and air temperature sensors, o Oxygen sensor and bung is highly recommended (either narrow-band or wide-band), o Wiring and various connectors for the sensors, injectors, etc., o Injectors and bungs/manifold, o Throttle body, o High pressure fuel pump and supply/return lines, and a o Fuel pressure regulator, * Tools and ability to cut the aluminum case end-plates for connectors and LEDs, * Knowledge and skills to install all of the necessary sensors and wiring, * Knowledge and experience to be able install or adapt a complete high-pressure fuel system in your vehicle for MegaSquirt® EFI Controller, * Windows 95 (or better) laptop computer with a serial port to configure and tune your MegaSquirt® EFI Controller, and * Enough mechanical aptitude to know what to do to make the engine run right.d
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Feb. 10, 2010 9:48 p.m. CarKid1989 HalfDork
yeah im just super curios about anything MSEFI.
if you go through with all this, you should make a blog or something. im interested to see how it turns out.
hmmm.....you got me thinking land speed records. 130MPH
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Feb. 11, 2010 12:00 p.m. 16vCorey SuperDork
Mike, it really is a lot easier than it looks. Just buy the kit (I've NEVER seen a used, assembled ecu sell for less than you can buy a new one and build it). If you have a soldering iron and can read, you'll be fine. Get a set of ITBs off ebay, buy the kit, and get soldering/wiring! Go to junkyards to get the misc. stuff and you should have it running for less than $300. That's pretty much what I did with the Rabbit. I had no idea what I was doing, just jumped in with both feet and did it.
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Feb. 11, 2010 1:20 p.m. problemaddict Reader
Theres an assembled one on CL for $75. Not a very confidence inspiring ad, tho, so i'll probably stay away. There's also one on e30tech. MS1 and JimStim for $180. I'm gonna offer $150. If he doesn't go for that, i'll purchase a kit and start solderin'
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Feb. 12, 2010 10:19 a.m. angusmf New Reader
I just got a package deal on an assembed but unused MS, stim and relay board. Anybody need a stim and relay board? Money goes back into the challenge budget...
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Feb. 12, 2010 11:12 a.m. 16vCorey SuperDork
problemaddict wrote:
Theres an assembled one on CL for $75. Not a very confidence inspiring ad, tho, so i'll probably stay away. There's also one on e30tech. MS1 and JimStim for $180. I'm gonna offer $150. If he doesn't go for that, i'll purchase a kit and start solderin'
Damn, I guess they are out there. I looked for a while before I bought mine, and everything I found was at least $50 more for a used assembled unit.
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Feb. 15, 2010 2:37 p.m. Spinout007 HalfDork
angusmf wrote:
I'm interested in the stim, possibly the relay board, shoot me an email with what you're looking to get for em.I just got a package deal on an assembed but unused MS, stim and relay board. Anybody need a stim and relay board? Money goes back into the challenge budget...
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Feb. 15, 2010 3:56 p.m. SVreX PowerDork
I've got a couple. Call me, Mike.
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Feb. 16, 2010 7:47 p.m. cwh SuperDork
Just a crazy thought- Would MS work for a 2 stroke outboard motor?
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Feb. 17, 2010 11:36 a.m. Dr. Hess PowerDork
Be sure your electrical system can handle the extra load. That was probably the hardest part of MS'ing Dr.Linda's Sportster. Ran out of Amps.
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Feb. 17, 2010 12:21 p.m. Spinout007 HalfDork
Microsquirt or whatever it's called, the credit card sized version.
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Feb. 17, 2010 6:15 p.m. problemaddict Reader
DrHess, do you have a build thread for your EFI Sporty?
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Feb. 18, 2010 4:47 a.m. problemaddict Reader
Just scored a MS setup on eBay for $157. I think its a v2.2 board w/ the daughter board (MSextra?, MS&S?) plus the MegaStim board.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MEGASQUIRT-ECU_W0QQitemZ320486897640QQcmdZViewItemQ...
I've started a thread in the sprockets forum. I've got a question about my throttle bodies, so check out the thread if you have any MS knowledge:
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/sprockets/kz400-megasquirt-project/19065/pa...
