HappyAndy UltraDork
Sept. 20, 2014 11:50 a.m.

NMNA.Found on Philly CL. Whould something like a T5 swap right into this? Are there junkyard swaps that can wake up the I6 or is a V8 swap the only way forward. I'm picturing this engine with all the smog crap removed, headers and side-draft Weber's, or some type of EFI.

patgizz PowerDork
Sept. 20, 2014 11:55 a.m.

gold. minus the engine/trans, plus a 292/t5

Flyin Mikey J Reader
Sept. 20, 2014 11:55 a.m.

Price seems high for what it is.

HappyAndy UltraDork
Sept. 20, 2014 12:00 p.m.

In reply to Flyin Mikey J: Its been listed for a while. I bet that if you showed up with a trailer, cash, and a good story you could take it away for under a grand.

TeamEvil HalfDork
Sept. 20, 2014 12:11 p.m.

Gold for $1,000. I like everything about it, especially the engine and trans set-up. Bulletproof around town/short commute car with a touch of style.

bentwrench HalfDork
Sept. 20, 2014 1:14 p.m.

Even better if you swap an early head on the motor, the integral manifold head and wonky carb is the suck

or sneak a 292 with some Clifford bits under the hood.

noddaz Dork
Sept. 20, 2014 2:22 p.m.
TeamEvil wrote: *SNIP* car with a touch of style.

I don't think that has ever been said about a Camaro...

Gearheadotaku PowerDork
Sept. 20, 2014 2:27 p.m.

Very rare car. The manual trans stuff should be worth good money, but not the trans itself. Sidedrafts and a 5speed would be very cool. If the body is soild could be a good buy. Chassis and body part are cheap and easy to get. Looks like the A/C is intact, bonus!

markwemple
markwemple Reader
Sept. 20, 2014 2:53 p.m.

Its a 70's camaro. The pinnacle of unreliability.

patgizz PowerDork
Sept. 20, 2014 3:04 p.m.
markwemple wrote: Its a 70's camaro. The pinnacle of berkeleying awesome.

FTFY

unreliability out of a straight 6 and manual? troll

Woody MegaDork
Sept. 20, 2014 4:30 p.m.

I'd skip the engine swap and just enjoy it. You could build the E36 M3 out of this car and it would never be as good all around as something halfway modern. Just drive it.

Kenny_McCormic PowerDork
Sept. 20, 2014 4:43 p.m.

I think this is the first time I've ever heard somebody call a stovebolt 6 and a saginaw 3 speed "unreliable"

TeamEvil HalfDork
Sept. 20, 2014 4:44 p.m.

"I don't think that has ever been said about a Camaro... "

Remember now, I'm on the look out for a 1971-73 Vega or an early four door Corvair. Tells you a lot right there.

I'm a sufferer of "Twisted Tastes."

markwemple
markwemple Reader
Sept. 20, 2014 4:55 p.m.

They would regularly rank 150% below average on reliability. I knew someone who owned a v6 auto from new. Once it was a couple of years old, he was under the hood more than any brit car owner

markwemple
markwemple Reader
Sept. 20, 2014 4:58 p.m.

...and unreliability comes from the entire car. I knew a woman who thought changing the starter and alternator annually on her 80 Camaro was routine maintenance.

914Driver MegaDork
Sept. 20, 2014 5:11 p.m.

It's already got the third pedal, SBC swap, slam, cage etc.

How's your body work skills?

Kenny_McCormic PowerDork
Sept. 20, 2014 5:51 p.m.

And to answer your question, long long ago, the Chevy straight 6 was a somewhat popular hot rod engine(overshadowed by the ford flathead V8) back when such things were relevant.

Swank Force One MegaDork
Sept. 20, 2014 5:57 p.m.
markwemple wrote: They would regularly rank 150% below average on reliability. I knew someone who owned a v6 auto from new. Once it was a couple of years old, he was under the hood more than any brit car owner

While a fun story, has nothing in common with the car in question.

Trans_Maro UberDork
Sept. 20, 2014 6:41 p.m.

In reply to Swank Force One:

It's also anecdotal.

I heard his cousin's, brother's dad had a 758.35HP mustang that ran on hydrogen.

markwemple
markwemple Reader
Sept. 20, 2014 10:20 p.m.

The car I was referring to was a 78 Camaro.

Swank Force One wrote:
markwemple wrote: They would regularly rank 150% below average on reliability. I knew someone who owned a v6 auto from new. Once it was a couple of years old, he was under the hood more than any brit car owner

While a fun story, has nothing in common with the car in question.

Trans_Maro UberDork
Sept. 20, 2014 10:32 p.m.

You said V6.

No 78 Camaro had a V6, they had 250 I6.

78 Firebirds had the Buick 231 v6 as a base engine.

Those are two of the most reliable domestic engines available at the time.

Nothing from the late 70's from any domestic auto maker had anything resembling decent build quality.

Datsun310Guy PowerDork
Sept. 21, 2014 7:51 a.m.

Back in the day my wife bought a 1979 Berlinetta Camaro that had a 305cid. I wonder if the I6 had more horsepower than the V8?

markwemple
markwemple Reader
Sept. 21, 2014 10:56 a.m.

My bad. I meant I6.

Trans_Maro wrote:

You said V6.

No 78 Camaro had a V6, they had 250 I6.

78 Firebirds had the Buick 231 v6 as a base engine.

Those are two of the most reliable domestic engines available at the time.

Nothing from the late 70's from any domestic auto maker had anything resembling decent build quality.

markwemple
markwemple Reader
Sept. 21, 2014 10:57 a.m.

No. American hp was almost nonexistent at that time. It wasn't until the mid 80 until it started making a comeback.

Datsun310Guy wrote:

Back in the day my wife bought a 1979 Berlinetta Camaro that had a 305cid. I wonder if the I6 had more horsepower than the V8?

Rob_Mopar SuperDork
Sept. 21, 2014 11:32 a.m.

Andy, if it's not a rot box that Camaro has plenty of potential. Not sure if a 292 will clear the stock hood in a F-body, but would give a different use for the overdone '69 Z28 style cowl hoods out there. A SBC 350 is the easy button. A 454 isn't much more difficult.

The door hinges are probably shot. I think they would wear out in weeks when those cars were new. Those are some heavy doors.

It's probably a Saginaw 3-speed. Don't know much about them, but I would be surprised if the mounting ears were different from a Muncie or a T-5. Would need to do a little homework but I suspect getting a T-5 to bolt up isn't going to require re-engineering the car. Just a bit of junkyard shopping.

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