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Stampie
Stampie UltraDork
12/7/17 6:34 p.m.
wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltraDork
12/7/17 6:47 p.m.

Engine donor?

Robbie
Robbie PowerDork
12/8/17 9:08 a.m.

I'd love to see someone hook one of these up to an old 4 speed and run 8 motorcycle  ITBs.

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett MegaDork
12/8/17 9:18 a.m.

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

glueguy
glueguy Dork
12/8/17 9:19 a.m.

"It wouldn't be hard to get a (clean) title for it thru the previous owner"

If it's on the interwebz it must be true.

 

KyAllroad (Jeremy)
KyAllroad (Jeremy) PowerDork
12/8/17 9:44 a.m.
Pete Gossett said:

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

"Probably" 

VW, likes to keep things the same so parts bin engineering can work, but no guarantees.

akylekoz
akylekoz HalfDork
12/8/17 10:25 a.m.

Won't go into drive, doesn't mean the same as doesn't go in drive.   Maybe it's just a linkage problem.

Stampie
Stampie UltraDork
12/8/17 10:27 a.m.
Pete Gossett said:

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

I know nothing of VW/Audi other than you have to put them into "service position" to do about anything. That sounds to be on the level of bend over and grab your ankles. 

Stampie
Stampie UltraDork
12/8/17 10:28 a.m.
KyAllroad (Jeremy) said:
Pete Gossett said:

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

"Probably" 

VW, likes to keep things the same so parts bin engineering can work, but no guarantees.

I'll guarantee that at least one bolt lines up. 

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett MegaDork
12/8/17 10:46 a.m.
Stampie said:
KyAllroad (Jeremy) said:
Pete Gossett said:

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

"Probably" 

VW, likes to keep things the same so parts bin engineering can work, but no guarantees.

I'll guarantee that at least one bolt lines up. 

After seeing the washers holding the starter on Tim's FV project, I think one bolt and a few washers would be good enough for you. Besides, if you use solid mounts for the engine & trans, do they really still need to be physically bolted together?

You need this Stampie, it has your special brand of GRM all over it.

KyAllroad (Jeremy)
KyAllroad (Jeremy) PowerDork
12/8/17 10:47 a.m.
Stampie said:
KyAllroad (Jeremy) said:
Pete Gossett said:

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

"Probably" 

VW, likes to keep things the same so parts bin engineering can work, but no guarantees.

I'll guarantee that at least one bolt lines up. 

Johnny Cash did it with an "Adaptic kit".

Stampie
Stampie UltraDork
12/8/17 10:52 a.m.
Pete Gossett said:
Stampie said:
KyAllroad (Jeremy) said:
Pete Gossett said:

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

"Probably" 

VW, likes to keep things the same so parts bin engineering can work, but no guarantees.

I'll guarantee that at least one bolt lines up. 

After seeing the washers holding the starter on Tim's FV project, I think one bolt and a few washers would be good enough for you. Besides, if you use solid mounts for the engine & trans, do they really still need to be physically bolted together?

You need this Stampie, it has your special brand of GRM all over it.

I translate that to mean my special brand is rigged to hell. 

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Dork
12/8/17 2:29 p.m.

In reply to Stampie :

No...let's call it "creative."

tripp
tripp Reader
12/12/17 4:38 a.m.

The assortment of tools and boxes around the car don’t at all give the “I just stopped working on it and gave up” look....

dherr
dherr Reader
12/12/17 7:38 a.m.

W8 + Europa = Awesome!

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett MegaDork
12/12/17 9:38 a.m.
dherr said:

W8 + Europa = Awesome!

It certainly wouldn't run any less than a stock one. 

dculberson
dculberson PowerDork
12/12/17 9:53 a.m.

Looking at pics of the engine and trans mounted up shows it to be such a tidy package. It's a shame they had so many troubles. It seems that VW never sold any internal bottom end parts like bearings, connecting rod bolts, etc. so rebuilds are impossible. It really looks like a neat way to shove 8 cylinders into a small mid-engined car.

dan0
dan0 Reader
12/12/17 11:15 a.m.

The W8 was nice for it's time, but the later motors are better. I was working as a service writer at a VW dealership and we had a customer with a W8 that ALWAYS had problems. Because of that I probably drove his car about 500 miles between visits. He later bought the next generation 3.6l 4motion Passat and the power of that blew away the W8. 

Robbie
Robbie PowerDork
12/12/17 11:26 a.m.
dculberson said:

Looking at pics of the engine and trans mounted up shows it to be such a tidy package. It's a shame they had so many troubles. It seems that VW never sold any internal bottom end parts like bearings, connecting rod bolts, etc. so rebuilds are impossible. It really looks like a neat way to shove 8 cylinders into a small mid-engined car.

I think you should make a renault fighter out of a golf.... devil

dculberson
dculberson PowerDork
12/12/17 1:45 p.m.

In reply to Robbie :

I was thinking more like Europa or - what would something like this look like with a W8 in it?

Robbie
Robbie PowerDork
12/12/17 2:41 p.m.

In reply to dculberson :

I'll accept it

NGTD
NGTD UberDork
12/12/17 3:06 p.m.
Stampie said:
Pete Gossett said:

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

I know nothing of VW/Audi other than you have to put them into "service position" to do about anything. That sounds to be on the level of bend over and grab your ankles. 

Actually the service position is quite handy. You replace two of the bolts with long shouldered bolts, remove the rest and the entire rad support c/w everything moves forward without disconnecting anything.

That being said B5 Passat with a drivetrain known to be unreliable? NOPE - not even for free.

Stampie
Stampie UltraDork
12/12/17 3:26 p.m.

In reply to NGTD :

How long does it take to do that the first time and then with experience?  I remember seeing an Audi A4 at a tow auction with a bad alternator. After seeing that you couldn't replace it without doing service position I passed. 

KyAllroad (Jeremy)
KyAllroad (Jeremy) PowerDork
12/12/17 8:14 p.m.

In reply to Stampie : The service position took me an hour to figure out the first time.  You have to remove the turn signals, grill, bumper skin, and a bit more.  Then remove the big bolts and slide the radiator support forward 6".

BTW, the alternator is slightly larger than the hole this then gives you and requires another 2 hours of cursing Germany and all things German to remove and an equal amount of time to jam the new alternator into place.  All very frustrating and by FAR the most idiotically placed alternator I've done.

 

Stampie
Stampie UltraDork
12/13/17 11:55 a.m.

In reply to KyAllroad (Jeremy) :

Good thing I passed then. I can cuss in Spanish and Korean but not German. 

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