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TurnerX19
TurnerX19 HalfDork
4/10/19 8:03 a.m.

Re-install the outer pushrod, vacuum it down as far as you can (20"+) and then you need to push the inner pushrod, which should then be doable. Just vacuum alone will not activate it do to the inner valve. Outer pushrod may make a vacuum seal as well.

Crackers
Crackers Dork
4/10/19 11:49 a.m.

Can you recess the booster into the firewall? 

Move the whole pedal assembly back and joggle the pedal arm. 

AWSX1686
AWSX1686 GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/10/19 2:51 p.m.

How much clearance does the wheel have inside the fender liner? Could you make part of the wheel well removable so that the booster is serviceable? 

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/10/19 6:28 p.m.

Update: the vacuum trick worked! I had to shove a rubber glove into the outlet side to plug the vacuum leak, but I was able to push on the plunger from inside the car with ease and work it upwards to freedom! 

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand UberDork
4/10/19 6:47 p.m.

Yay!  I finally had a good idea!

 

Glad it worked.  Now get a new one and install it!

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/10/19 6:50 p.m.

I'm going to hit the yard this weekend to look for a smaller diameter. I think it still hits the valve cover. Rockauto research tells me one from a Sentra or Altima is 2" less diameter, and I'm hoping my master just bolts on bc Nissan. It would be worth the upgrade cost in the Challenge budget.

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
4/10/19 9:10 p.m.

Keep it up! Youre inspiring me to get back at the miata. 

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/11/19 7:37 p.m.

Yeah let's see more V6 Miata! 

Today I found out how Amazon ships a pre-bent roll bar hoop. 

$43 shipped. It's for a Pinto/Mustang II and seems to fit well with extra length to spare. You can find the measurements on Summit Racing using the same part number, but get it cheaper on Amazon. Got the idea from Patrick's gasser build.

Then I washed this car for the first time ever and started the long process of sanding and bodywork. Still no brake solution worked out yet. 

wheelsmithy
wheelsmithy GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/13/19 4:03 p.m.

Question: 

Did you re-use the fuel cap from the donor? Does it trip the CEL

I ask because I am planning a swap of similar scope, and would love to keep the computer as intact as possible, and avoid CELs, etc. I am thinking of how finicky new cars are with the fuel cap coming up as a trouble code, etc.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/13/19 6:15 p.m.

In reply to wheelsmithy :

Surprisingly, I don't think I'm getting an EVAP code. CEL is always tripped, due to downstream O2 sensors and cruise control not existing. I have the EVAP vacuum lines plugged, so there's no vacuum leaks, but yeah you'd think there would be a code for the charcoal canister and related components being gone.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/15/19 9:32 p.m.

Something about Miatas and answers? While perusing the junkyard for a replacement G35 booster, I found a non-ABS NA Miata with almost nothing left, except its brake system. The booster is single-diaphragm and 2" smaller in diameter, so it should be a good boost but not too boosty. 

Cleaned up the booster with a fresh coat of paint, thenI flipped the proportioning valve bracket upside down to move the valve over to the right. A little trimming and bending made it perfect. My hope is that the Miata prop valve does a good enough job that I can remove the manual bias valve if I need an extra $20 in the budget later. But for now they're both in, because burnouts.

It needs to go here. But the nose of the MC hits the strut tower, no surprise there.

Here's the upper control arm mount and spring perch I surgically avoided.

Much hammering was had. Much more cutting and grinding after this shot too.

Getting close

Why does everything I do to this car devolve into CAD fab?

Burned in good to add the stiffness back.

Finally found another source for my coveted Rustoleum Harbor Blue spray paint. I can't find this stuff anywhere, but it's almost a perfect match to the Datsun interior.

I had to run a vacuum line from the passenger side to the booster, so I formed it out of some leftover fuel line.

I won't know how it works until tomorrow, when my power bleeder adapter arrives. But mashing the pedal doesn't reveal any leaks, and the running-engine vacuum test proves the booster is good. This has been a 20 hour upgrade. My thought is easier to drive = faster to drive. At previous autocrosses, braking was an all-or-nothing affair due to the massive pedal effort involved. 

Patrick
Patrick GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/15/19 9:49 p.m.

Similar boat with my datsun.  I really appreciate power brakes and I think you made the right call.  

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/16/19 6:55 p.m.

I asked wife if she wanted to go for a ride since she's never actually been in this car. "Aren't you testing the brakes out?" "Yeah but it always had bad brakes" "...mmmm maybe next time"

This. Was. 1000% definitely worth the effort! Pedal feels fantastic and I feel way more confident ripping around the hood. I did a big smokey uphill burnout past the house in celebration. Wife still unamused.

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand UberDork
4/16/19 8:51 p.m.

I am amused!

 

Good work!

 

What is the size of the master?

 

Thanks!

NOHOME
NOHOME UltimaDork
4/16/19 10:39 p.m.

Love it when a plan comes together.yes

sleepyhead
sleepyhead GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
4/17/19 3:05 a.m.
maschinenbau said:

 

how do we feel about bracing between the shock tower and the firewall?

I realize there's probably not a lot of reason for the master to move around, nor for the shock tower.  but there seems to be some space to pull off something similar to what's in many BMW's?  but, that's where my brain goes when seeing pictures like this.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/17/19 6:40 a.m.

In reply to wvumtnbkr :

This Miata master is 7/8" compared to the G35 which is 1". 

Sleepyhead,

A strut tower brace that also connects into the firewall wouldn't be a bad idea considering how much structural fabrication was done up front.

Patrick
Patrick GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/17/19 7:25 a.m.

I bet you the strut tower to core support bars from a rendezvous/aztek/other U platform gm and possibly w bodies would be perfect.  

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/17/19 8:48 a.m.

brake guy gives thumbs up.

badwaytolive
badwaytolive Reader
4/17/19 9:15 a.m.

Nice dude, very grassroots

RacetruckRon
RacetruckRon GRM+ Memberand Reader
4/17/19 9:59 a.m.

In reply to maschinenbau :

I have a 350z strut tower brace that would be a good starting point, I also have a carbon fiber VQ engine cover. Both are collecting dust in my garage, they're yours for the price of shipping.

sleepyhead
sleepyhead GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
4/17/19 10:12 a.m.
Patrick said:

I bet you the strut tower to core support bars from an aztek platform gm and possibly w bodies would be perfect.  

that would be so motherberkleying beautiful

NOHOME
NOHOME UltimaDork
4/17/19 11:28 a.m.

In reply to maschinenbau :

Then I washed this car for the first time ever and started the long process of sanding and bodywork. Still no brake solution worked out yet.

 

So, how far down the rabbit hole are you going on the body and paint? That job alone can eat a Challenge budget and  a few hundred hours. But I do like to watch others suffer, so following right along.

 

Pete

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/17/19 12:04 p.m.

In reply to NOHOME :

Funny you should ask, I'm actually following advice you gave a few months ago in this thread with some modifications:

  • Scuff everything down to 180 with sander (done)
  • Body filler and block sand to 180
  • Rustoleum primer high build
  • Block to 300
  • Rustoleum primer surfacer
  • Sander to 600
  • Spray Paintforcars.com single stage (mystery color 1)
  • Spray Rustoleum gloss ( mystery color 2)
  • Spray stripes
  • Wet sand 1000
  • Paintforcars.com clear coat
  • More wet sanding and buffing

The whole paint job, including various rattle cans I've been using under the hood, interior, and for various parts, SHOULD come out to about $250, which I have been carefully reserving in the budget all year. 

But yeah, I'm in for some suffering. Also I've never painted with a spray gun before, so that'll be fun to learn.

NOHOME
NOHOME UltimaDork
4/17/19 12:28 p.m.

In reply to maschinenbau :

Might have mentioned it, but fill the gun with water and get the feel for adjusting the spray pattern and what the various controls do. Also a good way to go around the car and get a feel for what it will feel like to reach all the awkward places while dragging a hose around and trying to keep the hose and yourself off the car.

The best way to set your gun pressure is to do it at the source. Use a pressure gauge at the gun, open the air flow control at the gun to wide open. Hold the trigger wide open while watching the pressure at the gun, but do any adjustments at the source regulator near the compressor. I use like 23 psi for my gun. Then remove the pressure gauge from the gun cause it is a pain to drag around and you wont need it once the source is set.

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