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  Dec. 8, 2011 1:25 p.m. Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director

  As you all have been watching, the 2002Tii project has progressed through the course of the year that we've had it (well, 11 months so far). 2011 was very productive and by the beginning of 2012, we should have a running, driving and nearly fully restored 2002 on our hands.
  

  The question then becomes—How do we use it? We're going to prepare it for SCCA's F Street Prepared autocross class and take it to the Solo Nationals to represent Classic Motorsports magazine. Normally we (and I) represent our sister publication, Grassroots Motorsports, to the coneheads. This year, I'll be flying the CMS flag!

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  Dec. 8, 2011 9:05 p.m. wlkelley3 Dork

  Cool, don't see enough classic stuff at autocrosses.

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  Dec. 9, 2011 5:28 a.m. Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director

  Thanks! One of the tough issues we have been dealing with is making sure we stay legal for the class rules. It is getting more and more difficult to keep a restoration "legal" as many of the normal updates are considered modifications.

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  Dec. 9, 2011 10:42 a.m. AndreGT6 Dork

  Sure you do.

  But its like a 4 to 1 ratio. For ever hour of fun its 4 hours of shop time afterwards :)

  
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  Dec. 9, 2011 5:44 p.m. Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director

  Braided front brake lines and the front half of the Classic Tube brake lines are on. Now it's time to start building the engine!

  Per

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  Dec. 9, 2011 8:04 p.m. AndreGT6 Dork

  Sweet.

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  Dec. 10, 2011 1:08 p.m. NOHOME HalfDork

  wlkelley3 wrote:

  Cool, don't see enough classic stuff at autocrosses.

  Thats cause they break, and if you try to make a mod to prevent further fixes, you run afoul of the rules and your MGB is classes with full race Vettes or some such.

  I used to accept that the cost of doing a track day the the MGB GT was a new 3 synchro transmission per outing. However, seeing all my friends drive there and back in their DD Japanese cars convinced me that I might have better things to do with my life and money.

  AND they were a lot faster than my "Period Modified" MGB!

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  Dec. 10, 2011 4:06 p.m. AndreGT6 Dork

  Yep. My Mazda is still fun on track, but the FIAT is a treat to race when it works right. Hence a trailer is required.

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  Dec. 10, 2011 8:31 p.m. wlkelley3 Dork

  Fully aware of why. In order to make classics competitive you end up outclassing the car. That is why I autocross a Miata and not my Opel GT. Most of the classics I see autocrossing have been modded to Modified class and are usually track cars anyways. Still, you just don't see many and it would be nice to see.

  There is a MGB GT that regularly autocrosses locally. He had some minor suspension mods, the biggest is lowered. No one really knew enough about MG's to know except me and I wasn't telling. I thought it more an equalizer just to get him close to the newer cars in his class. He used to race it in stock class but there was some complaints about other cars misclassed so he now races Street Prepared just so no one will complain about him.

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  Dec. 12, 2011 12:50 p.m. Ian F SuperDork

  We used to have a guy with a '73 911 show up and run in B-Stock (or may have been C-stock). He would drive from Northern NJ down to Philly on his Hoosier A6's: "no room for another set of tires and what-not. I do make sure it's not going to rain." He is the original owner too. I miss seeing that car.

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  Dec. 12, 2011 1:27 p.m. Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director

  That's cool--up in Jacksonville, there's a super-fast ASP 1972 911T.

  Per

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  Dec. 12, 2011 6:34 p.m. jr02518 New Reader

  Per,

  Have you been in contact with OS Giken to put together a diff that will work in your 2002?

  Please!

  This is one of the hard points in the build that could bring current technology into the market.
  

  David

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  Dec. 13, 2011 2:54 p.m. Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director

  Well, I will have a spare housing that I could send to them to send to Japan. I had actually already thought of that and hope to have it happen!

  Per

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  Dec. 15, 2011 12:12 a.m. jr02518 New Reader

  Per,

  Think of this as a West coast version of what your are building.

  http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,57/page,viewtopic/t,33...

  David

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  Dec. 20, 2011 8:36 a.m. Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director

  There's one in Colorado and one out on the West coast somewhere....both are fast and both will be good targets next year.
  

  I'm sifting through wiring and whatnot now--waiting for some parts from Ireland Engineering and Bavarian Autosport so I can finish up the engine.

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  Dec. 25, 2011 1:18 p.m. AngryCorvair SuperDork

  Per, this car makes me smile every time I see it. I love what you're doing with it, and I hope to see it in person someday. Keep up the good work!

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  Dec. 29, 2011 2:22 a.m. GSCReno Reader

  +1 on AngryCorvair. IMHO Pers '02 is the perfect blend of purposeful looks and tasteful performance upgrades without ruining its classic character. Well done once again Per... Cheers, Scott

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  Jan. 3, 2012 5:34 p.m. Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director

  Thanks guys! I am hoping to have it on the road soon and the goal is really to drive it to the Dixie National Tour and back--then the Mitty and back..and maybe even Nebraska and back. We'll see!

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  Jan. 19, 2012 1:37 p.m. alfadriver SuperDork

  Having been running a classic in CSP and DSP for 12 years now, I feel for you. And root for you.
  

  And knowing the compromise that the fuel injection is, any reason you are not using electronic?

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  Jan. 19, 2012 5:09 p.m. Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director

  Compromise? maybe? I won't know for sure until I put it on the dyno and test it--and then decide if EFI will help. I was pretty impressed with the car's performance prior to teardown.

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  Jan. 19, 2012 8:37 p.m. alfadriver SuperDork

  Yea, compromise. Looks good, just like my SPICA. And quite period.

  But both of us have to lug around a 20lb fuel pump.

  Not sure how tuneable K-fisher is, but SPICA has limitations. I'd be surprised if you don't have some issues- it's going to be tough to be super accurate all the time 12-12.5:1.

  Then there's spark. But that's a whole different issue.

  What I like about the EFI for both of us, you can very well hide it using mostly original parts- mainly the manifold.

  I'm sure it'll run great with the K injection. I'm fairly sure that EFI will run better....

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  Feb. 7, 2012 4:17 p.m. Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director

  It turns out that the car doesn't run so well with a borked distributor..and I found out that I have a 'fake' Pertronix. Off to AdvancedDistributors it goes!

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