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  • ransom

    Aug. 3, 2011 12:54 p.m. ransom HalfDork

    It's a doozie. Maybe it's dumb to attempt it, but it's such a topic of debate and FUD...

    How do we define a car handling well? It's certainly subjective, and the behavior we want from a car depends on what we want to do with it.

    It's an age-old discussion, but for some arbitrary reason the thing which made me want to request the article is the comparisons I've been hearing between the latest Mustang in guises like the Boss 302 and the M3.

    They lap a road course in similar times. Some people say the new Mustang handles beautifully and is a quantum leap for the model. Others insist it's still completely agricultural and has no business being compared to an M3. Are they driving the same car?

    Unless we're racing for a living, the manner in which the times are turned matters. Driving fast is a tactile endeavor, and the steering feel, chassis balance, behavior at all phases of corner entry, middle, and exit all affect how it feels, and how good it feels.

    So, the central question is a qualitative comparison of these two cars, but I'd love to see a deeper discussion, perhaps comparing other similar sets of cars and what's feels good or bad about each.

    Can of worms? Totally. No concrete result? Of course not. But I think it would be compelling to hear some sensitive and skilled drivers discussing these finer points of what makes a car feel good.

  • Tom Heath

    Aug. 3, 2011 1:18 p.m. Tom Heath Web Manager

    Good idea? Yes. Already been done? Unfortunately, also yes.

    Watch Randy Pobst fulfill your wishes on YouTube.

    Randy is very, very good at describing what he's doing and what he's feeling behind the wheel.

    There might be some meat still left on the M3 vs. Mustang bone, but not enough to make a full meal of it. Of course, that's just my opinion and not a certified statement from the organization as a whole.

  • ransom

    Aug. 3, 2011 1:46 p.m. ransom HalfDork

    In reply to Tom Heath:

    The thing that makes it a can of worms is hope for a discussion of the underlying properties across all cars (what defines a pleasant-handling car? What sensations, reactions, properties, etc) rather than just a subjective/qualitative Mustang/M3 comparison.

    That being said, thanks for the link! While he doesn't get super-subjective, it was nice to hear a point by point discussion of what each car did better or worse and how.

    Also, it reminded me that it's always a mistake to let your eyes wander down to the comments on YouTube, and that not everybody with an interest in cars can do discussion at the level of the GRM forum...

  • David S. Wallens

    Aug. 6, 2011 12:05 a.m. David S. Wallens Editorial Director

    I don't want to show my hand just yet, but we do have something in the works where an expert in our field defines a proper sports car--handling, power, etc. It should be a neat read.

  • ransom

    Aug. 6, 2011 1:08 a.m. ransom HalfDork

    In reply to David S. Wallens:

    Cool! Looking forward to it!

 
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