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  • poopshovel

    Aug. 1, 2009 1:03 p.m. poopshovel SuperDork

    In the last week, I've been reminded of a couple of things:

    1. Grassroots Motorsports is the best damned automobile related magazine out there.

    2. This is the best message board in the frickin' world, and obviously not just for auto-related stuff.

    Our Challenge car this year will be a bit of a departure from our normal schtick, so I've been picking up "other" magazines and frequenting "other" message boards looking for inspiration and technical info.

    I'm abso-smurfing-lutely amazed at the lack of content in a lot of other automotive magazines. I flipped through one last week (I won't name any names, but it's an offshoot of a REALLY popular mag that's been around FOREVER,) because one of the "feature cars" was really inspiring. I was more than a little disappointed to find that not only was the article barely a page long (if you removed the 15 photos spread over 5 pages,) but there was hardly ANY relevant information on the car OR the driver.

    The kicker is that the magazine is HALF as thick as a GRM and cost $5 freakin 99!!! I'll never make that mistake again.

    Likewise, asking very simple questions on other message boards has proven to be incredibly frustrating. As to not come off like a lazy dreamer n00b trying to waste everyone's time, I perused the FAQ's, How-to's, etc. on said boards, looking for very simple answers to very simple questions. After mulling through and not finding much useful information, I very politely and humbly posted questions on the boards. The responses I've gotten have ranged from disappointingly unhelpful to downright nasty, and I'm realizing that a lot of folks on a lot of boards are just plain full of berkeleying E36 M3. They want to talk a lot about what they're "gonna" do, and "this is how so-and-so did it, so that's the only way," etc. etc. etc.

    Anyway, thanks to GRM AND the members of this board for providing valuable, easy to understand, fluff-free, timely, and often very witty and entertaining CONTENT.

    kisses.

  • ww

    Aug. 1, 2009 1:07 p.m. ww SuperDork

    As long as you remember there are only (two) possible answers to every question. E36-M3 or Miata.

  • maroon92

    Aug. 1, 2009 1:07 p.m. maroon92 UltraDork

    WeRD!

  • JFX001

    Aug. 1, 2009 1:13 p.m. JFX001 Dork

    Amen.

  • poopshovel

    Aug. 1, 2009 1:14 p.m. poopshovel SuperDork

    ww wrote:

    As long as you remember there are only (two) possible answers to every question. 1st gen. CRX or 3rd gen. Civic.

    ...but I might dip my toe in the darkside. Talk to me after our buddy Kevin (the guy with the turbo AWD Challenge Tracer) gets his new CSP motor buttoned up.

  • P71

    Aug. 1, 2009 1:43 p.m. P71 SuperDork

    A-freaking-men Poopy!

  • JThw8

    Aug. 1, 2009 5:41 p.m. JThw8 SuperDork

    Agreed. I frequent alot of boards and GRM is by far the best community. Knowledgeable people and acceptance of others and their opinions.

    Heck the only other board I can think of that comes close is the baberally boards, but they are lower on the tech aspect (but low flame good community) but that's probably because its populated by a buncha GRMrs. In fact if there is a good tech discussion there you can almost guarantee its coming from a GRM person.

    Thanks everyone for being so great!

  • GregTivo

    Aug. 1, 2009 6:04 p.m. GregTivo Reader

    Yeah, if your first auto forum on the interwebs is GRM, don't bother exploring the rest of the net (except for BABE and Jalopnik), it'll be a letdown.

  • Junkyard_Dog

    Aug. 1, 2009 6:05 p.m. Junkyard_Dog Reader

    JThw8 wrote: In fact if there is a good tech discussion there you can almost guarantee its coming from a GRM person.
    And even then its often "fix your brakes and cross your fingers on the rest!"
  • maroon92

    Aug. 1, 2009 6:29 p.m. maroon92 UltraDork

    I am proud to say that GRM was my first experience with internet forums...however, I have since not had patience with any other forum...SoloAtlanta isn't bad though...

  • bamalama

    Aug. 1, 2009 6:55 p.m. bamalama Reader

    poopshovel wrote:

    ww wrote:

    As long as you remember there are only (two) possible answers to every question. 1st gen. CRX or 3rd gen. Civic.

    ...but I might dip my toe in the darkside. Talk to me after our buddy Kevin (the guy with the turbo AWD Challenge Tracer) gets his new CSP motor buttoned up.

    I intend to look both your cars over fully, so maybe one year I can finally do something with my Protege.

  • ultraclyde

    Aug. 1, 2009 8:21 p.m. ultraclyde New Reader

    I agree completely. I frequent AllFordMustangs forum for the late model ponies, and there are some good folks there, but every other board.....if I wanted ill-informed, read-it-on-a-cereal-box answers, I'd ask the parts counter kids.

    You guys know your stuff.

    And the magazine, good Lawdy, it's a blessing.

  • JThw8

    Aug. 1, 2009 8:33 p.m. JThw8 SuperDork

    Junkyard_Dog wrote:

    JThw8 wrote: In fact if there is a good tech discussion there you can almost guarantee its coming from a GRM person.
    And even then its often "fix your brakes and cross your fingers on the rest!"

    If its a fix your brakes post then I probably made it. After spending so much time in, under and around other peoples cars I may expand my territory.

    Gonna start a new rule too, if you ignore me when its a simple fix I'm not savin' your butt when it gets to be a complex fix.

  • Sonic

    Aug. 1, 2009 9:34 p.m. Sonic Dork

    In reply to JThw8:

    There should be a rule: "If Misfits told you to fix it, and you didn't, you are on your own"

    If we fix it en-route like the cold air intake on the e-lemon-ators Camry, that is different.

    +1 though, the GRM board is the best damn bunch of craies on the interw3bZ

  • JThw8

    Aug. 1, 2009 10:22 p.m. JThw8 SuperDork

    Sonic wrote:

    There should be a rule: "If Misfits told you to fix it, and you didn't, you are on your own"

    You know to what I refer, and we fixed it anyway. But we said pre-rally to check/maintain it, then when they didn't and it went south we said wait 20 min and we'll fix it and they went on anyway. So then I spend $100 of my own money and an hour of my time to repair the damage the next day.....such is life.

    10 minute/$5 job if done when we first mentioned it.

    I'd like to say I'm just gonna stop fixin stuff for others, but that wouldn't be in the grassroots spirit, and I love the grassroots spirit.

  • NYG95GA

    Aug. 1, 2009 10:44 p.m. NYG95GA SuperDork

    Society the way it was meant to be. Here.

  • GregTivo

    Aug. 1, 2009 11:27 p.m. GregTivo Reader

    JThw8 wrote:

    Sonic wrote:

    There should be a rule: "If Misfits told you to fix it, and you didn't, you are on your own"

    You know to what I refer, and we fixed it anyway. But we said pre-rally to check/maintain it, then when they didn't and it went south we said wait 20 min and we'll fix it and they went on anyway. So then I spend $100 of my own money and an hour of my time to repair the damage the next day.....such is life.

    10 minute/$5 job if done when we first mentioned it.

    I'd like to say I'm just gonna stop fixin stuff for others, but that wouldn't be in the grassroots spirit, and I love the grassroots spirit.

    considering we spent most of a night rebuilding the front of a Cabriolet a year ago, and eric refabricated an exhaust manifold mount this year, it hard to say what the most ralliers will actually shy away from.

    It feels a shame that my entries have been so reliable, as I'd love to test out how far ralliers will go to keep a fellow rallier on the road.

  • Tim Suddard

    Aug. 2, 2009 6:20 a.m. Tim Suddard Publisher

    Thanks guys.

    But hey, there are more than two answers to every question. Next weekend we are going to find out if an E30 is a good car to put a 15 year old through a NASA HPDE at Road Atlanta in.

  • ddavidv

    Aug. 2, 2009 6:27 a.m. ddavidv UltraDork

    Tim Suddard wrote:

    Thanks guys.

    But hey, there are more than two answers to every question. Next weekend we are going to find out if an E30 is a good car to put a 15 year old through a NASA HPDE at Road Atlanta in.

    Two answers: Yes. and "Duh".

  • 4cylndrfury

    Aug. 2, 2009 6:57 a.m. 4cylndrfury Dork

    Yes poop, couldnt agree more. I would say you hit the nail on the head, but knowing most of us, its more like hit the thumb right on the knuckle . This too was my first foray into really becoming involved in Interwebs forums, and I must say, its been a real pleasure.

    Tim, Margie, Per, Baxter, JG, and everyone else: honest, sincere and humble thanks!!1!!11!

  • curtis73

    Aug. 2, 2009 10:05 a.m. curtis73 HalfDork

    One of the recent ones I picked up said "turbocharge any engine." I was ready for some really hardcore tech on compressor maps, matching components, and a couple buildups. It ended up being a brief turbo glossary with no real tech and one picture of a turboed engine.

  • mad_machine

    Aug. 2, 2009 11:35 a.m. mad_machine UberDork

    ugh... makes me wish the OLD sport compact car. You guys are the best though. There are still a few boards I frequent (yes, even bimmerforums) but I tend to pick and choose which threads I follow and comment on.. and then proceed to get totally ignored by the masses there.

  • SillyImportRacer

    Aug. 3, 2009 5:31 a.m. SillyImportRacer New Reader

    Agreed. This is the best board & the best mag...ever. I've learned more from both than any other automotive source. It's nice to be able to ask a question and actually get an answer.

  • 4cylndrfury

    Aug. 3, 2009 6:12 a.m. 4cylndrfury Dork

    mad_machine wrote:

    makes me wish the OLD sport compact car.

    double + eleventy billion

    I REAAAALLLLLY looked forward to the weeks where both a new GRM and a new SCC were on the newstand at the same time. When my wife and I were planning our wedding, she would drag me to a big box bookseller, and we would sit and drink coffee and she would sit down with 10 wedding mags and I would read my 2...GRM and SCC, and she couldnt understand why I didnt get more like she did. She would get thru all 10 before I closed my first, and then she would have to sit there and make sour faces while I read the other. When she asked why I was buying those 2 at the end of our trip to the store, and I never got any others, the only answer I had was "what other ones are there?"

  • aussiesmg

    Aug. 3, 2009 7:20 a.m. aussiesmg Dork

    I got introduced to GRM back in Australia about 15 years ago, it rocked my world....

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