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EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/24/15 4:52 p.m.

Codes are P0420 catalyst system efficiency below threshold and P0301 cylinder 1 misfire.

The first one is probably due to the damaged cat from oil burning and what sounds like some exhaust leaks in that area.

The second is likely from today where the CEL was flashing on the highway. Last night I pulled the cyl 1 plug wire to see how it looked and it came apart in my hand. I had a used spare that I put on. I'll do new plugs and wires soon and check out the exhaust.

After some more driving the oil burning is most noticeable when the engine is cold, when warm it doesn't smoke much.

sesto elemento
sesto elemento Dork
11/25/15 5:01 p.m.

Did you try an LS swap?

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/25/15 5:59 p.m.

In reply to sesto elemento:

That would definitely fix it.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/25/15 7:20 p.m.

Or at least create new and more interesting problems.

PS - A former co-worker stopped by today. He runs his Miata at... a lot of boost. He swapped from LS2 coils to IGN-1A coils because the LS2 coils didn't have enough umph over 28psi boost. He offered me the LS2 rack/harness. You interested?

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/25/15 8:26 p.m.

Yea, kinda.

noddaz
noddaz GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/26/15 12:32 p.m.

So, what did you find out?

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/26/15 1:03 p.m.

I have it up on jackstands now to remove the cat and see how bad it is along with removing the loose heat shields. I haven't removed the valve cover yet to check timing.

Aside from being sluggish below 4k rpm (I know I said 2k before but I have been watching the tach more closely) at constant throttle while cruising it will surge a bit.

Rogue
Rogue New Reader
11/27/15 9:54 a.m.
EvanB wrote: Aside from being sluggish below 4k rpm

On a Miata….thats normal. ;)

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/27/15 10:02 a.m.

Well yes, to an extent. This doesn't feel normal compared to other Miatas I have had.

I didn't take off the cat yesterday since the nuts didn't want to move. I'm not sure that is the immediate problem since it seems like a clogged cat would reduce power at higher rpm rather than the other way.

NOHOME
NOHOME UberDork
11/27/15 10:04 a.m.

Vacuum gauge will diagnose a clogged exhaust. And a bunch of other stuff also.

Vacuum gauges are real cheap

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/27/15 10:09 a.m.

Maybe I just need to bolt on the turbo for the winter.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/27/15 10:09 a.m.

I do have some vacuum gauges, maybe this weekend I will try that.

sesto elemento
sesto elemento Dork
11/27/15 11:23 a.m.

What about removing one of the upstream o2 sensors (preferably not an a/f sensor) to relieve potential flow restriction, just for testing purposes?

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic UltimaDork
11/27/15 8:21 p.m.

Speaking of 02 sensors, try unplugging the upstream(s) and going for a drive. I've seen cars with the upstream 02 goofy enough that the car ran way better on open loop.

pjbgravely
pjbgravely Reader
11/27/15 11:04 p.m.

I have fixed many cars with the cat below threshold with Lucus fuel cleaner. I guess some times it is caused by dirty injectors. Have you tried disconnecting the battery to reset all the parameters the engine learn from the PO. Sometimes it makes a big difference. If you get a lot of random codes bad grounds are usually the problem.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
11/29/15 12:55 p.m.

Finally hooked up the vacuum gauge to test it out. It idles steady at 20 in hg with no fluctuation. Blipping the throttle makes the gauge quickly jump to 0 then back to 22-23" and slowly back to 20. Steady 3000 rpm shows around 21 in hg.

From what I have read this means the engine likely has slightly worn rings? No exhaust blockage though.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/29/15 1:03 p.m.

To check exhaust blockage you would need to make an O2 sensor-to-hose adaptor - take a drain plug from a Miata trans or rearend (18x1.5 pitch), drill and tap for 1/8" NPT, install NPT to 3/16" brake line fitting, and then a short length of brake line. 6" is plenty to keep the hose from melting. Install device in place of upstream O2 sensor.

The symptoms are generally the opposite of plugged exhaust, though.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
12/4/15 7:48 a.m.

So I drove it to work yesterday (15 minutes highway). It was doing fine until I was just exiting the highway and threw a misfire code and was running rougher. After work I stopped by my friend's shop and hooked up the scanner. The only thing evident was a weird signal from the MAF sensor. After cleaning that it seemed to run much better. Much smoother and seemed like it had more power.

I still got a misfire code on the way home so I'll change the plugs and wires and throw my spare coil on to see if that helps.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
12/5/15 12:53 p.m.

This would appear to be off.

NickD
NickD Reader
12/5/15 2:34 p.m.
EvanB wrote: This would appear to be off.

Wow, it even ran like that? Geez.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
12/5/15 2:39 p.m.

It was pretty close, the i and e marks are supposed to line up with the raised areas on the back plate.

NickD
NickD Reader
12/5/15 2:42 p.m.

In reply to EvanB:

Oh, yep, looked at that wrong and it looked way worse. First time I did the timing on my 1.6L I ended up a tooth off on the intake (Easy, seeing as how timing these is such an imprecise process). Drove it that way for an entire summer because the garage got tied up. Only thing I really noticed was a horrible idle once it warmed up.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
12/5/15 4:29 p.m.

Redid the timing belt and now it is much worse. Hooray!

pjbgravely
pjbgravely Reader
12/5/15 8:05 p.m.

Unhook the battery for 10 minutes and see if relearning helps.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua UltimaDork
12/5/15 8:26 p.m.
pjbgravely wrote: Unhook the battery for 10 minutes and see if relearning helps.

Are Miatae that smart?

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