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  • ReverendDexter

    Sept. 20, 2011 12:58 p.m. ReverendDexter SuperDork

    93EXCivic wrote:

    I am going to get rid of crash-standards all together and automatics and push button starts and .... This list is going to get too long if I keep going.

    Automatics are still handy in trucks, drag racing, and for the handicapped.

    No crash standards at all is still a world-wide standard

    Push button starts are totally okay with me, provided they use the setup where you just have to have the keyfob in your pocket and don't have to put the key in the column, crank it to "on" and then hit a button.

  • ProDarwin

    Sept. 20, 2011 5:07 p.m. ProDarwin Dork

    ReverendDexter wrote:

    darkbuddha wrote:

    I'll be looking at a new Focus ST next year... twice the power, better looking (IMHO), and overall awesomer! I'm just bummed we're not gonna get the wagon vesion...

    Or the 3-door.

    Hyundai did the same thing with the Accent, too. No more three door. Just the 5-door and the stupid sedan.

    When I'm Emperor of the Known Universe, I'm banning sedans and 5-door hatchbacks, at least for 10 years or so. Of course I'll have an awesomeness exception for things like the mid-90s Impala SS, Mercury Maruader, and Mazdaspeed3, but elsewise GTFO. I'm also gonna implement world-wide emissions and crash-standards, so there won't be any "we can't have that over here" BS.

    What's wrong with a 5-door? Seems more practical than a 3 door.
    I don't see anything wrong with Sedans either.

    I'm all for crash standards... just not to the level they are at now.

    I vote weight standards. To be offically classed as a compact, your car must meet these dimensions: under 2300lbs, shorter than xx, 37mpg epa, etc. Tax each type of car differently, and insurance companies will insure them differently. Would be nice to see all manufacturers trying to make the best sub-2300lb car they can.

  • ReverendDexter

    Sept. 20, 2011 9:07 p.m. ReverendDexter SuperDork

    ProDarwin wrote:

    What's wrong with a 5-door? Seems more practical than a 3 door.
    I don't see anything wrong with Sedans either.

    I'm all for crash standards... just not to the level they are at now.

    I vote weight standards. To be offically classed as a compact, your car must meet these dimensions: under 2300lbs, shorter than xx, 37mpg epa, etc. Tax each type of car differently, and insurance companies will insure them differently. Would be nice to see all manufacturers trying to make the best sub-2300lb car they can.

    I'm actually for some sort of crash standards, too, I was mostly just riffing off of what had been said.

    The thing wrong with 5-doors is exactly your logic: a wagon is more practical than a 5-door, so why crap up a perfectly awesome 3-door with two extra doors? If you need a practical car with doors for a back seat, get a wagon or a minivan.

    Same thing with sedans. Wagons have practically no additional weight, but have better aero, more carrying capacity, and better outward visibility. There's just no justification for a sedan over a wagon. For proof, look no further than SUVs: are they based on sedans or station wagons?

  • 93EXCivic

    Sept. 20, 2011 9:12 p.m. 93EXCivic SuperDork

    ReverendDexter wrote:

    93EXCivic wrote:

    I am going to get rid of crash-standards all together and automatics and push button starts and .... This list is going to get too long if I keep going.

    Automatics are still handy in trucks, drag racing, and for the handicapped.

    No crash standards at all is still a world-wide standard

    Push button starts are totally okay with me, provided they use the setup where you just have to have the keyfob in your pocket and don't have to put the key in the column, crank it to "on" and then hit a button.

    Ok so automatics for trucks and handicapped.

  • ProDarwin

    Sept. 22, 2011 12:57 p.m. ProDarwin Dork

    This does not bode well:

    http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car/11q3/2012_hyundai_veloster-short_take_road...

    Cliff notes: Its a fat underpowered brick that looks much cooler than it is.

  • Vigo

    Sept. 22, 2011 6:28 p.m. Vigo Dork

    I just read Motor Trend's take on it. They pointed out that it has almost exactly the same performance stats as the CR-Z. I spent some time looking at pictures of both, and considering what i might do with either if i owned them... and in the end i decided i'd rather have a CR-Z.

    Not that im going to buy one. Wrecked ones are still 10k+.

  • ProDarwin

    Sept. 23, 2011 5:53 a.m. ProDarwin Dork

    Its actually almost exactly the same as the base model civic... same width, height, weight, power, economy.

    What would make me lean toward the CRZ is this: http://www.fuelly.com/car/honda/cr-z

    39.1mpg average over 181 cars over 1.1 million miles.

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