So I was talking to a friend about the event, and he was seriously interested in coming with me. he said that he looked at the rules and there was a rule about having a scca license? How do you get this license? are you able to race if you dont even have a valid drivers license?
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April 29, 2011 12:39 p.m. LSX_510 New Reader
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April 29, 2011 12:41 p.m. 92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
SCCA liscense not necessary. Sure he wasn't looking at the Ultimate Track Car Challenge rules?
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April 29, 2011 12:53 p.m. LSX_510 New Reader
Lol who knows, what about a valid drivers license? I am not able to get mine for another year :(
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April 29, 2011 3:14 p.m. JThw8 SuperDork
I believe the autocross portion is governed by SCCA rules which do require a valid drivers license.
Drag portion falls under NHRA, not sure of there rules but I would imagine a license is going to be required.
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April 29, 2011 3:37 p.m. LSX_510 New Reader
i have been drag racing for years, bracket racing, heads up etc.. I have never once been asked for my license.
PLEASE HELP.. If I cant make it to the event I would rather spend my money on my drag car
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April 29, 2011 3:39 p.m. DILYSI Dave SuperDork
To drive, you have to have a driver's license. You could build the car, come to the event, and let the Pro drivers drive it if you wanted.
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April 29, 2011 3:47 p.m. LSX_510 New Reader
thats gay as aids..
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April 29, 2011 3:50 p.m. poopshovel SuperDork
You could always build a canoe.
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April 29, 2011 3:52 p.m. LSX_510 New Reader
I have raced several local scca events and wasnt questioned in the past. this seriously just broke my balls.
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April 29, 2011 4:20 p.m. turboHLS30 Reader
How old are you?
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April 29, 2011 4:36 p.m. JThw8 SuperDork
LSX_510 wrote:
thats gay as aids..
This isn't that kind of message board so please show some respect.
If the folks at your SCCA arent checking your license before you drive they they are in danger of loosing their insurance.
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April 29, 2011 5:29 p.m. LSX_510 New Reader
Im 24 sorry for the rant but I cant see why a event with race cars requires a drivers license. I work on and drive outlaw 10.5 cars which make 100x the power that any car at the evnt makes. I have never once needed a drivers license to drive a car that is way more of a liability.
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April 29, 2011 5:37 p.m. JThw8 SuperDork
LSX_510 wrote:
Im 24 sorry for the rant but I cant see why a event with race cars requires a drivers license. I work on and drive outlaw 10.5 cars which make 100x the power that any car at the evnt makes. I have never once needed a drivers license to drive a car that is way more of a liability.
The realistic answer? Because autocross events are not races, they are "Driver skill competitions" and as such require licensed drivers. The bottom line, its much cheaper to get insurance on an autocross than an actual sanctioned race.
Your average SCCA (or other organization) Autocross is barely breaking even on entry fees vs. expenses so higher priced insurance is not something they need. Most tracks which run outlaw races and other such events have higher entry fees as well as other revenue sources (spectator fees, concessions, etc) to offset the cost of insurance (and based solely on the "local" tracks I've been too most of them are probably grossly under insured) They also offset their insurance liability by requiring a certain level of safety equipment, roll cages, harnesses, etc.
SCCA, assuming the state they are in permits it (NJ does not) does offer some autocross classes for karts which are open to younger drivers without licenses.
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April 29, 2011 5:39 p.m. 92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
Well, the Challenge isn't until fall. Gives you plenty of time to get your liscense.
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April 29, 2011 6:05 p.m. LSX_510 New Reader
well you proved a valid point. Im not eligible until november. So I guess that gives me a year to get prepared. What about a hardship license?
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April 29, 2011 6:14 p.m. 92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
LSX_510 wrote:
well you proved a valid point. Im not eligible until november. So I guess that gives me a year to get prepared. What about a hardship license?
A hardship license is to get you back and forth to work or sometimes school, only. I don't think scamming the system would be looked upon kindly.
Question, and if you don't want to answer, that's fine.... but why do you not have a license at age 24? What happened?
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April 29, 2011 6:41 p.m. LSX_510 New Reader
I was a childish drivers when I was younger.. Its not scaming the system its a license.
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April 29, 2011 7:59 p.m. SVreX SuperDork
DILYSI Dave wrote:
To drive, you have to have a driver's license. You could build the car, come to the event, and let the Pro drivers drive it if you wanted.
I'm not sure of the ratio, but I would bet the majority of cars are driven by pro drivers, not their owners. Since it is a builder's competition, not a driver's competition, it's pretty normal.
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April 29, 2011 8:16 p.m. tuna55 SuperDork
100x the power? Really?
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April 29, 2011 8:41 p.m. turbojunker HalfDork
tuna55 wrote:
100x the power? Really?
I always wanted to drive a car with 40,000 hp.
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April 29, 2011 8:54 p.m. SVreX SuperDork
LSX_510 wrote:
Im 24 sorry for the rant but I cant see why a event with race cars requires a drivers license. I work on and drive outlaw 10.5 cars which make 100x the power that any car at the evnt makes. I have never once needed a drivers license to drive a car that is way more of a liability.
Where are you racing that doesn't require a license for a car that can do 200 mph? NHRA requires an NHRA competition license. ORSCA also requires an NHRA competition license, and a valid state driver's license.
Methinks he doth protest too much...
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April 29, 2011 9:06 p.m. 92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
LSX_510 wrote:
I was a childish drivers when I was younger.. Its not scaming the system its a license.
It is if you show up and try to race on it. That's improper use of a hardship license.
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April 29, 2011 10:22 p.m. LSX_510 New Reader
Lol I was being a little sarcastic with the 100x statement. I race at a local track that is owned by neil chance converters. I have yet to make a 1/4 pass I only run the 1/8 mile no license needed. I dont even pull the chute.
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April 30, 2011 7:30 a.m. SVreX SuperDork
Ozark Raceway Park? Still requires driver's licenses (except for Jr. Dragster) and competition licensing to the E.T.
I'm not trying to nit-pick you, but you are making a big scene over licensing which as far as I am aware is required virtually everywhere. Just because you've never been checked doesn't mean it's not in the rules.
I can't imagine a venue that wouldn't require it. It would blow their insurance, which is a risk no owner would want.
The good news about the Challenge is that there is nothing requiring you to drive. You can bring the winning car, have a blast, and not need a license.
