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Sept. 14, 2011 5:54 p.m. white_fly New Reader
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Sept. 14, 2011 6:26 p.m. Maroon92 SuperDork
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Sept. 15, 2011 8:25 a.m. jimbob_racing Dork
Why do we have NASCAR and NOT this?
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Sept. 15, 2011 8:36 a.m. 81cpcamaro New Reader
jimbob_racing wrote:
Why do we have NASCAR and NOT this?
Rednecks?
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Sept. 15, 2011 8:54 a.m. Adrian_Thompson Dork
jimbob_racing wrote:
Why do we have NASCAR and NOT this?
Funny, if you watch any of the DTM races, many of them seem to aspire to NASCAR. Both series are really tuba frame racecars with look-a-like bodies on, NASCAR is even going F.I. !!! The real difference is the apparent lack of Aero on NASCAR and that whole right turn issue. They are not that far apart in concept.
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Sept. 15, 2011 9:25 a.m. Ian F SuperDork
Adrian_Thompson wrote: Both series are really tuba frame racecars with look-a-like bodies on,
True... but at least the DTM cars bear some resemblence to their production counterparts, even through the over-the-top flares and aero add-ons.
Right now, I root for the the Audi. Simply because the A5 is one of the most beautiful regular production cars in some time.
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Sept. 15, 2011 9:46 a.m. Rusted_Busted_Spit SuperDork
In reply to Adrian_Thompson:
But those few differences are a big deal to me.
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Sept. 15, 2011 11:16 a.m. itsarebuild Reader
Ian F wrote:
True... but at least the DTM cars bear some resemblence to their production counterparts,
NASCAR cars all looked like their production cars too. it just so happened that all of the sedans made by ford, toyota, chevy, and dodge all looked like the same egg from 20 feet away
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Sept. 15, 2011 1:23 p.m. Ian F SuperDork
In reply to itsarebuild:
Ha, ha... ha... no... NASCAR bodies are literally all the same with different decals.
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Sept. 15, 2011 2:51 p.m. Joshua HalfDork
When did DTM switch from real cars (like the e30 M3) to tube frame cars?
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Sept. 15, 2011 2:57 p.m. 4cylndrfury SuperDork
jimbob_racing wrote:
Why do we have NASCAR and NOT this?
because we have the ghey
makes 4cf sad
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Sept. 15, 2011 3:13 p.m. Adrian_Thompson Dork
Rusted_Busted_Spit wrote:
In reply to Adrian_Thompson:
But those few differences are a big deal to me.
Totaly agree. I have no interest in toilet bowl skittles myself, but I do watch several DTM races each year.
BTCC is still far more interesting that DTM though.
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Sept. 15, 2011 3:18 p.m. Adrian_Thompson Dork
Joshua wrote:
2000.When did DTM switch from real cars (like the e30 M3) to tube frame cars?
Back in the 80's DTM ran Group A like BTCC and then short lived WTCC. They then diverged and got more and more high tech, although still somewhat prod based. The series got more and more expensive until it basicaly imploded around 96/97 and died. There was then no DTM until it was revived with the NASCAResc tube frame silhouets in 2000.
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Sept. 15, 2011 3:28 p.m. Adrian_Thompson Dork
HHmm, I went trolling Wikipedia after my last post. Qucik cut and past from there.
DTM in 2011–2015In March 2010, GT Association (the governing body in Super GT series in Japan) reported the ITR are starting to unite the mechanical regulation with Japan's GT500 (Super GT's upper class), and NASCAR's Grand American Road Racing Association Grand Touring division to form a new Grand Touring specification.[citation needed] This regulation was expected to be completed in time for the 2015 season, while they were expected to start the unification on 2012.
In 2011, the DTM held a Race of Champions-style exhibition event in the Munich Olympic Stadium. From 2012 on, they plan it to be a full championship race.[citation needed]
BMW announced that they will return to the DTM in the 2012 season with their M3.[2]
Audi has announced that they will switch from the A4 to the A5 starting in 2012.[3] DTM in 2011–2015In March 2010, GT Association (the governing body in Super GT series in Japan) reported the ITR are starting to unite the mechanical regulation with Japan's GT500 (Super GT's upper class), and NASCAR's Grand American Road Racing Association Grand Touring division to form a new Grand Touring specification.[citation needed] This regulation was expected to be completed in time for the 2015 season, while they were expected to start the unification on 2012.
In 2011, the DTM held a Race of Champions-style exhibition event in the Munich Olympic Stadium. From 2012 on, they plan it to be a full championship race.[citation needed]
BMW announced that they will return to the DTM in the 2012 season with their M3.[2]
Audi has announced that they will switch from the A4 to the A5 starting in 2012.[3]
On October 17, 2010, it was announced that a North American DTM Series would begin racing in 2013. Much like the system where the name and format of the American Le Mans Series were licensed to be run by Don Panoz, the American DTM will be licensed to and operated by NASCAR through its Grand American Road Racing Association. The inaugural 12-race series is set to be run on North American circuits in conjunction with Rolex Sports Car Series, NASCAR Sprint Cup Series, and NASCAR Nationwide Series events.[4]
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Sept. 15, 2011 7:52 p.m. Joshua HalfDork
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
On October 17, 2010, it was announced that a North American DTM Series would begin racing in 2013. Much like the system where the name and format of the American Le Mans Series were licensed to be run by Don Panoz, the American DTM will be licensed to and operated by NASCAR through its Grand American Road Racing Association. The inaugural 12-race series is set to be run on North American circuits in conjunction with Rolex Sports Car Series, NASCAR Sprint Cup Series, and NASCAR Nationwide Series events.[4]
So it will be the ATM series? Brought to you by Visa!
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Sept. 17, 2011 8:25 p.m. 4eyes HalfDork
Joshua wrote:
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
On October 17, 2010, it was announced that a North American DTM Series would begin racing in 2013. Much like the system where the name and format of the American Le Mans Series were licensed to be run by Don Panoz, the American DTM will be licensed to and operated by NASCAR through its Grand American Road Racing Association. The inaugural 12-race series is set to be run on North American circuits in conjunction with Rolex Sports Car Series, NASCAR Sprint Cup Series, and NASCAR Nationwide Series events.[4]
So it will be the ATM series? Brought to you by Visa!
BOW before your corporate overlords.
