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alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
6/20/13 8:19 p.m.
mad_machine wrote: look at the brakes on that prototype! I wonder how much fun you could have taping up/covering up a normal car like that and driving around michigan?

If you do that, you also have to gut the interior, and kind of place guages in odd holes, have vents taken apart, and have the HVAC just randomly placed in the center.

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
6/20/13 8:26 p.m.
t25torx wrote: I like this render I saw a while back. With the Ecoboost motor I would really consider this car.

Wow. They already took a phenomenal looking, iconic car and made a great looking ass hideous. I suppose making the front look like E36 M3 was the next logical step.

"It's the new scion/aston/hyundaifocusdart-stang!"

...waits for alfadriver to tell me I'm obviously not a "car guy."

irish44j
irish44j UberDork
6/20/13 8:57 p.m.
irish44j wrote:
t25torx wrote: I like this render I saw a while back. With the Ecoboost motor I would really consider this car.
I like the red renders. This one looks like they just stretched out a Taurus. Weird. Either way, happy they're getting over the retro thing. It was cool for a bit, but it's totally jumped the shark at this point and was getting kind of lame/dated looking.

Looking at it again, I must say I'm annoyed at something that annoys me about the current body as well....that useless little teeny quarter window behind the b-pillar. Put some real useful glass back there...blind spots suck.

irish44j
irish44j UberDork
6/20/13 9:00 p.m.
poopshovel wrote: Wow. They already took a phenomenal looking, iconic car and made a great looking ass hideous. I suppose making the front look like E36 M3 was the next logical step. "It's the new scion/aston/hyundaifocusdart-stang!" ...waits for alfadriver to tell me I'm obviously not a "car guy."

damn, this must have been you up at Summit Point the other day.... (/sarcasm)

aussiesmg
aussiesmg UltimaDork
6/20/13 9:12 p.m.

Please Ford, build a 5.0, manual, RWD, 4 door and market it as a Torino/Falcon, pleeeeaaaasssseeee

Rob_Mopar
Rob_Mopar SuperDork
6/20/13 9:55 p.m.
alfadriver wrote:
mad_machine wrote: look at the brakes on that prototype! I wonder how much fun you could have taping up/covering up a normal car like that and driving around michigan?
If you do that, you also have to gut the interior, and kind of place guages in odd holes, have vents taken apart, and have the HVAC just randomly placed in the center.

Sounds like a Challenge car would fit that bill.

Spoolpigeon
Spoolpigeon Dork
6/20/13 10:02 p.m.

Here are the spy shots we should be excited about.

http://jalopnik.com/more-proof-the-2015-mustang-will-have-an-independent-re-511354371

I know, shame on me for posting a jalopnik link. It's the first link googly moogly brought up.

yamaha
yamaha UberDork
6/20/13 10:59 p.m.

In reply to Spoolpigeon: Shame shame shhhhaaaaammme

So, if it will have the IRS, I presume this means they are going after the Europeans this time? It was rumored before they would either keep the status quo or go higher tech to compete there.

RexSeven
RexSeven UltraDork
6/21/13 1:35 a.m.

In reply to yamaha:

By moving to IRS, Ford is going after the Europeans AND trying to catch up with Chevy and Dodge, who currently have IRS-equipped pony cars. The 2015s will be the first Mustangs officially sold in Europe, and obviously Ford feels that a SLA isn't refined or modern enough for Europeans.

pres589
pres589 SuperDork
6/21/13 8:54 a.m.
aussiesmg wrote: Please Ford, build a 5.0, manual, RWD, 4 door and market it as a Torino/Falcon, pleeeeaaaasssseeee

I think that car would work only if the Taurus didn't already exist. Honestly, I think it could be great; Mustang as poor man's 3 series, this car as poor man's 5 series? At least from a performance perspective, I think it could work.

slefain
slefain UltraDork
6/21/13 9:11 a.m.

All the guys who bought the 2005+ "retro" Mustangs are no longer Ford's main target. Those buyers got their retirement toy, now Ford has to capture a new demographic, someone who doesn't have fond memories of the original car. I love the original Mustang design, but it won't carry them into the future. Brave to Ford for moving the name forward.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde Dork
6/21/13 10:58 a.m.

Slefain - I bought new in '05, but I was born in '76 and am FAR from retirement. I did grow up in the south, though, so idolizing the '68 Cobra was probably natural. We are 25 years behind...

I understand what you're saying, though, the retro look should be over as far as new cars are concerned. It's getting sad. I'm all about an update, more modern, etc, but that blue thing is a steaming pile in the looks department. The red one is better, but it looks a LOT like the Frisbee twins - not all bad, they're pretty good looking cars. I would like to see something modernized but unique. So, like a fully realized unicorn, basically.

yamaha
yamaha UberDork
6/21/13 11:12 a.m.

In reply to RexSeven:

I'm not sure that has been a huge plus for the other 2.......

alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
6/21/13 11:19 a.m.

In reply to poopshovel:

It's a car and driver rendering. that's all.

Why would they think that the new corporate nose would go on a Mustang is totally beyond me- which version got the 3 bar grill that was the last corporate nose?

I also see some notes from the '93 or so prototypes, perhaps to add some credibility. Yea, not so much.

That's why the guy who drew that works for a magazine and not a car company.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/21/13 11:55 a.m.

In reply to alfadriver:

alfadriver
alfadriver PowerDork
6/21/13 11:58 a.m.

prototype from 1993.

This is Rambo. Thankfully, they didn't try the Bruce Jenner to take clues from for the sketch.

penultimeta
penultimeta New Reader
6/21/13 1:01 p.m.
Javelin wrote: In reply to alfadriver:

This. Ford's repeating the same cycle of making the Mustang hideous. My uncle used to call Foxes "escorts with a wing". This isn't to say that, for their time, Foxes weren't a great buy and miles ahead of the Mustang II. But they're ugly. Only now do I find myself having a strange affection for them. I hope Ford's done some soul searching and will reconsider the direction they're going with design.

DrBoost
DrBoost PowerDork
6/21/13 1:12 p.m.
slefain wrote: All the guys who bought the 2005+ "retro" Mustangs are no longer Ford's main target. Those buyers got their retirement toy, now Ford has to capture a new demographic, someone who doesn't have fond memories of the original car. I love the original Mustang design, but it won't carry them into the future. Brave to Ford for moving the name forward.

I just hope Ford has the ability to make a car that doesn't look like an Aston. I know it's the new corporate look, but it's soo obvious it's lifted from PAG days. Only the Chinese do it worse.

All that being said, except for the Aston front end, that car looks great to me. I think the 'yote V8 is an amazing engine, though I've yet to experience one. Unless they go FWD, I can't see Ford making a mustang that wont sell in big numbers.

xflowgolf
xflowgolf HalfDork
6/21/13 1:24 p.m.
penultimeta wrote: Ford's repeating the same cycle of making the Mustang hideous. My uncle used to call Foxes "escorts with a wing". This isn't to say that, for their time, Foxes weren't a great buy and miles ahead of the Mustang II. But they're ugly.

I still love the lines of a notchback Fox.

pres589
pres589 SuperDork
6/21/13 3:27 p.m.

The Fox Mustang in sedan format is pretty easy to like, especially that white one. If only it was easy to add Fox Capri box flairs...

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
6/21/13 3:42 p.m.

Since the current "retro" car was clearly inspired by the 1968-1970 Mustangs, it would only be logical that this would be the next step.....

Oh yeah! Bring on the Mustang Grande'!

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/21/13 4:07 p.m.

In reply to Joe Gearin:

I'd be down with that!

yamaha
yamaha UberDork
6/21/13 4:15 p.m.

I'd rather see a return to its roots.....64.5-66 size, weight, and inspiration all the way!

bravenrace
bravenrace UltimaDork
6/21/13 4:52 p.m.

I don't care what the new Mustang looks like. I have the real deal.

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/21/13 5:02 p.m.
yamaha wrote: I'd rather see a return to its roots.....64.5-66 size, weight, and inspiration all the way!

If it returned to its roots wouldn't it be a 2 door fastback focus? Basically return of the probe.

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