Flight Service MegaDork
Oct. 26, 2015 12:53 p.m.

Honda Civic?

I get as the efficiency equations run eventually everything goes to a singularity, but this weird.

aircooled MegaDork
Oct. 26, 2015 12:58 p.m.

Eventually, all cars will look like the Honda Civic.

STM317 New Reader
Oct. 26, 2015 1:04 p.m.

Looks like a smokin deal to me. Kinda want one for Mrs STM's next ride. More range, better fuel economy, more power, quieter range extender, better looking (imo) and cheaper than the last gen.

Kreb UltraDork
Oct. 26, 2015 1:08 p.m.

It's better looking than the civic IMO, but the similarities are striking!

A friend had a first generation, and said that it was a really great car. For GMs sake, it'd be great if they can keep the goodness, while making it more accessible and PR-friendly.

dean1484 MegaDork
Oct. 26, 2015 1:10 p.m.

Really like that but the cars back side has always been its down fall. Wonder if they improved things there as well.

drdisque Reader
Oct. 26, 2015 1:20 p.m.
aircooled wrote: Eventually, all cars will look like the Honda Civic.

And all restaurants will be Taco Bell. They were the only one to survive the franchise wars.

bgkast UberDork
Oct. 26, 2015 1:21 p.m.

It's blue and the headlights are a similar shape, but that's all I'm seeing.

The Hoff UltraDork
Oct. 26, 2015 1:28 p.m.

Saw one on the road yesterday, thought it looked great from behind. Would totally rock one.

Flight Service MegaDork
Oct. 26, 2015 1:30 p.m.
bgkast wrote: It's blue and the headlights are a similar shape, but that's all I'm seeing.

roof line, overall structure. Even the little faux door extender looks like it is trying to maintain the shape on the back door.

stuart in mn PowerDork
Oct. 26, 2015 1:31 p.m.

Car manufacturers have always tended to follow each other in styling. Here's a chart showing the US lineup in 1940:

G_Body_Man Dork
Oct. 26, 2015 3:17 p.m.

Some of the lines on these two are shockingly similar.

Apis Mellifera HalfDork
Oct. 26, 2015 3:25 p.m.

The Chevy Volt does Honda Civic better than the Civic does Honda Civic.

moparman76_69 UltraDork
Oct. 26, 2015 4:34 p.m.

Your tone is quasi-facetious but you do not realize that Honda was the only manufacturer to survive the dealership wars. Now all cars are Hondas.

Mike Dork
Oct. 26, 2015 10:13 p.m.

I see Civic, but I see Hyundai Elantra more:

Appleseed MegaDork
Oct. 26, 2015 10:16 p.m.

Remember what the concept looked like? THAT'S the car shape we wanted.

mad_machine MegaDork
Oct. 26, 2015 10:57 p.m.

I like the fact that the Volt has a quasi-kamm tail

Storz Dork
Oct. 27, 2015 5:45 a.m.

I like the exterior of the 1st gen and the interior of the 2nd gen best. Concept looks better than both. We have a 2012 and love it, awesome car

camaroz1985
camaroz1985 Reader
Oct. 27, 2015 8:04 a.m.
Storz wrote: I like the exterior of the 1st gen and the interior of the 2nd gen best. Concept looks better than both. We have a 2012 and love it, awesome car

I agree. I think the 1st gen is a cleaner design. We have a 2014 and love it as well.

mad_machine MegaDork
Oct. 27, 2015 8:20 a.m.
Appleseed wrote: Remember what the concept looked like? THAT'S the car shape we wanted.

funny, I did not care for the concept. I did like the 1st generation's looks though, and this one is a nice design also

xflowgolf Dork
Oct. 27, 2015 10:14 a.m.
Mike wrote: I see Civic, but I see Hyundai Elantra more:

Agree.

The swept taillights up the fenders are very Hyundai like.

GameboyRMH MegaDork
Oct. 27, 2015 10:25 a.m.

I'm guessing the 2016 Volt is a pure EV by the size of the radiator openings.

Edit: Nope, they're going to try to cool an ICE through those little slits. Good luck.

STM317 New Reader
Oct. 27, 2015 11:28 a.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: I'm guessing the 2016 Volt is a pure EV by the size of the radiator openings. Edit: Nope, they're going to try to cool an ICE through those little slits. Good luck.

If you look at most new cars, the majority of the "grille" is often blocked off, and the radiator gets cool air from an opening that is usually suprisingly small. Most current Volt owners rarely use the ICE and with an extended all electric range, the ICE shouldn't run as frequently on the next gen cars.

This pic shows a new Mustang GT grill: http://blogging.la/2013/12/07/los-angeles-as-one-of-6-host-cities-for-2015-mustang-reveal/2015-mustang-gt-grill-detail/

Notice the small number of functional openings and consider that it provides adequate air flow to cool a 400+hp 5L V8, and then think about how much cooling the Volt's 1.5L 4 cylinder "range extender" might need for the times when it operates.

aircooled MegaDork
Oct. 27, 2015 11:35 a.m.

I think most newer cars are pulling most of the cooling air from under the bumper. The over the bumper "grills" seem to be mostly for show.

novaderrik UltimaDork
Oct. 27, 2015 1:26 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: I'm guessing the 2016 Volt is a pure EV by the size of the radiator openings. Edit: Nope, they're going to try to cool an ICE through those little slits. Good luck.

the 400ish hp 355 in my 86 Camaro keeps cool with only a slit of the grille about 2" tall and 12" wide open.. the rest is taped off... it really doesn't take a lot of air to keep things cool if everything's in good shape..

look at any newer car- most of what looks like a grille is actually blocked off. pick any car, it don't matter. if it has a huge grille on it, most of that is just decoration. you don't think a new Fusion has 30 square feet of grille opening, do you?

JimS
JimS New Reader
Oct. 27, 2015 2:18 p.m.

Looks like they stole the chrome bar from my Acura grille

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