getting serious about starting a 240z project, whats every one know about them as track cars? looking to build a vintage track car. any good photos to get the ideas flowing?
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March 15, 2010 6:23 p.m. rob_mrl New Reader
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March 15, 2010 6:26 p.m. 96DXCivic HalfDork
BRE 240Z. I would say the iconic 240Z racing car.
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March 15, 2010 8:34 p.m. friedgreencorrado Dork
Some of us on the East Coast could suggest an alternative..
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March 15, 2010 8:55 p.m. rob_mrl New Reader
picture didnt wook
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March 15, 2010 9:09 p.m. friedgreencorrado Dork
Eh, it did when I posted it. Sombody somewhere is calling me a bandwidth thief. It was one of the old Bob Sharp IMSA Zs. (Paul Newman #33, Jim Fitzgerald #38)
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March 15, 2010 9:11 p.m. friedgreencorrado Dork
friedgreencorrado wrote:
Eh, it did when I posted it. Sombody somewhere is calling me a bandwidth thief. It was one of the old Bob Sharp IMSA Zs. (Paul Newman #33, Jim Fitzgerald #38)
EDIT: The BRE/BSR rivalry was the hot West Coast/East Coast one when the 240z was new.
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March 15, 2010 9:33 p.m. oldsaw Dork
friedgreencorrado wrote:
friedgreencorrado wrote:
Eh, it did when I posted it. Sombody somewhere is calling me a bandwidth thief. It was one of the old Bob Sharp IMSA Zs. (Paul Newman #33, Jim Fitzgerald #38)
EDIT: The BRE/BSR rivalry was the hot West Coast/East Coast one when the 240z was new.
Brad Friselle did a nice job of keeping BSR in check:
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March 15, 2010 9:56 p.m. rwdsport New Reader
Needs more tire
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March 15, 2010 10:52 p.m. GI_Drewsifer Reader
Posing deep philosophy questions to other racers. Brilliant distraction technique!
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March 16, 2010 7:46 a.m. racerdave600 Reader
I drove a friend's ITS 240Z for a while and it is still my favorite race car. I've driven tons of stuff from open wheel cars to Vipers, but there was something about the 240. You need good upper body strength though, it tended to get very heavy steering on fast sweepers, but some spring and shock tuning could have helped that. It wasn't my car so I couldn't exactly have changed everything. Still, the car was just magic on a road course. It was also fun to autorcross, but on a real road course is where it was most at home.
I am now restoring a '71 Z and it will see some type of track duty. In my opinion, it's hard to wrong with one.
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March 16, 2010 8:27 a.m. tuna55 HalfDork
I have always lusted after one. The biggest problem that I can see from the bench is that they have a crazy high drag coefficient, like 0.42 or something - way way worse than my turbo brick. Hard to believe, but that's one instance where swoopy sexiness doesn't translate into efficiency. Go to hybridz.org and search for their wind tunnel thread - they didn't believe it, either, and all pitched in to go test it for real. They tried a bunch of stuff to no avail. I think the main problem is that the rear window is at the wrong angle, maybe a spoiler on the roof (ugly, yes) could disrupt the laminar layer enough to make some headway, but it's always been a sticking point.
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March 16, 2010 8:35 a.m. 4cylndrfury SuperDork
GI_Drewsifer wrote:
Posing deep philosophy questions to other racers. Brilliant distraction technique!
one more example of how flares make everything awesomer!
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March 16, 2010 10:43 a.m. Stealthtercel Reader
What's it all mean? It means that if you're reading this, you haven't got past me yet.
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March 16, 2010 10:52 a.m. oldsaw Dork
Stealthtercel wrote:
What's it all mean? It means that if you're reading this, you haven't got past me yet.
In 1976 it meant "Passing is futile; I own this series".
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March 16, 2010 11:08 a.m. RossD Dork
In reply to racerdave600:
I went and looked at a guy's 240z that was sorta prepared for the track yet sorta streetable, and he had a grant gt steering wheel installed. He broke one of the three spokes and had fixed it with a couple of plates and rivets. Heavy steering? No joke.
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March 16, 2010 1:47 p.m. skruffy Dork
I've got one that has the back half of the Jim Cook imsa style flares on it. It needs floors and a bunch of bodywork stuff done. It's my track car project but I'd let it go cheap if you were so inclined.
It's a 1970 with the vertical defrost window too, so it'll be even faster on the track.
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March 16, 2010 9:13 p.m. friedgreencorrado Dork
In reply to oldsaw:
Aw, man! I can't believe I forgot Friselle! But..did BRE ever do IMSA?
BTW: I found an old (1979) Auto World Motorsports catalog while going through some stuff after the move last year. On the cover is a Martini 935, Greenwood's "Spirit of Sebring" #75, one of Mo Carter's Camaros...and Brad's car.
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March 16, 2010 9:21 p.m. cwh SuperDork
I remember well that while I was involved with IMSA, '85-90, there was one '70 240z racing in GTU. It was supposed to be one of the original race cars built back in the day, had never seen a mile on the street. 15 years on the track had taken a bad toll on the car, but I still loved it for what it was and what it represented. I hope it has been restored by one that appreciates it.
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March 16, 2010 10:24 p.m. oldsaw Dork
friedgreencorrado wrote:
In reply to oldsaw:
Aw, man! I can't believe I forgot Friselle! But..did BRE ever do IMSA?
BTW: I found an old (1979) Auto World Motorsports catalog while going through some stuff after the move last year. On the cover is a Martini 935, Greenwood's "Spirit of Sebring" #75, one of Mo Carter's Camaros...and Brad's car.
I'm thinking BRE wasn't an IMSA contender. Maybe Devendorf was a protege of Brock and carried the torch?
Carter built some awesome Camaros; I have some great shots of the car in the horseshoe at the '76 24hr.
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March 17, 2010 12:22 a.m. showa New Reader
For a wild ride, lookup Darius (sp?) on hybridz and youtube.... His Z is crazy...
I bought a 240Z that I am slowly getting street/ track ready... Currently have a 280Z motor in it but will eventually have a V8....
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March 17, 2010 8:46 a.m. slantvaliant HalfDork
In case the track isn't enough ...
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March 17, 2010 10:09 a.m. Tom Heath Marketing / Club Coordinator
You should come to the Mitty and see the BRE cars in person...you know, for research.
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March 17, 2010 10:35 a.m. keethrax Reader
slantvaliant wrote:
In case the track isn't enough ...
Now that was truly inspiring.
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March 17, 2010 10:57 a.m. 4cylndrfury SuperDork
Valiant, that BRE, nose in the air, terrain flying...its enough to bring tears to a grown mans eyes. ITs good that the driver was most likely sporting a tri colored race jacket, cuz if he were wearing one of those wolves howling at the moon T-shirts, the awesomeness of that photo wouldve probably melted my corneas!
Thanks for saving my corneas BRE, its was your jacket that saved my sight!
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March 17, 2010 11:00 a.m. 4cylndrfury SuperDork
slantvaliant wrote:
In case the track isn't enough ...
Roads? Where we're going, we dont need...roads!
