RossD UltimaDork
Dec. 4, 2016 6:47 a.m.

365 horsepower, 420 lbft at 2500 rpm and 417 lbs without accessories. The controls package is another $2300, of course Jegs and the like probably sell it for a touch less.

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-35T

I am guessing it would bolt to the mustangs current 6 cylinders manual transmission.

As this is news to me and I haven't noticed any threads, Discuss.

Dec. 4, 2016 6:58 a.m.

There sure are a lot of other options in the <$12k bracket... Neat idea. How much more power can you make with them?

singleslammer PowerDork
Dec. 4, 2016 7:01 a.m.

The control harness is the important but to me. The engine should just be the 3.5l from one of the f150 years. Grab a motor from the junkyard and save 6k. It will be interesting to see if Keith and his competitors do anything with this though.

Ian F MegaDork
Dec. 4, 2016 7:05 a.m.

The main concern I'd have with this engine over the various LS options is size. DOHC engines tend to fairly wide to begin with and I doubt adding a turbo hanging off each head helps with this.

RossD UltimaDork
Dec. 4, 2016 8:52 a.m.
singleslammer wrote: The control harness is the important but to me. The engine should just be the 3.5l from one of the f150 years. Grab a motor from the junkyard and save 6k. It will be interesting to see if Keith and his competitors do anything with this though.

I also noticed the 2.3 ecoboost and controller are coming out too.

Keith Tanner MegaDork
Dec. 4, 2016 9:57 a.m.

2.0, 2.3, 3.5 - I've had some conversations with Ford Performance.

STM317 HalfDork
Dec. 4, 2016 10:07 a.m.

Not everything needs to be LS swapped, and it's nice that Ford is offering these to give consumers more choice.

But unless I had a vintage Ford product that needed a thoroughly modern engine, I think I'd put my 12k towards a healthy LS3/ tremec combo from GM's catalogue. For 9.6k, you can get 525hp/480lb-ft of compact LS3 with warranty straight from GM.

Appleseed MegaDork
Dec. 4, 2016 10:27 a.m.
Keith Tanner wrote: 2.0, 2.3, 3.5 - I've had some conversations with Ford Performance.

Oh the things you could do with a hot 4 banger crate motor.

RossD UltimaDork
Dec. 4, 2016 10:35 a.m.

With the 2.0/2.3 controls, you could bolt an ecoboost anywhere a duratec or mzr resides.

MattW New Reader
Dec. 4, 2016 11:15 a.m.

My coworker has a F150 Ecoboost. With some basic bolt ons it made (IIRC) 412rwhp and over 500lbsft. Not bad for some cookie cutter truck.

Zeitgeist Reader
Dec. 4, 2016 11:25 a.m.
RossD wrote: With the 2.0/2.3 controls, you could bolt an ecoboost anywhere a duratec or mzr resides.

Yeah the 4 cylinders make the most sense. They are much smaller and lighter,have the same number of valves as a pushrod V8 and yet only 1 more cam to go with 4 less rods and pistons so some of the complexity is removed while adding it in other ways. Comparing 400 reliable HP from a 2.3EB to an old school iron block SBC or SBF and the weight benefits start looking really nice.

I am waiting for builds of turbo 4 cyl Monzas, Vegas,Pintos,Mustang IIs and street rods become more common. The SBC-LS-LT craze will dominate for a long time but the thing with hotrodders and car people is that the love variety and being different.

Dec. 4, 2016 12:00 p.m.

I'm not a huge Ford guy, but I think this is great. Not everything needs a V8 swap and it's nice to see a crate motor that's not a V8 as well.

Even with a 2.0L Ecoboost, there is a lot of potential. If somebody, somewhere, doesn't do a swap in an Festiva or an Aspire, I would be disappointed.

bmw88rider Dork
Dec. 4, 2016 12:42 p.m.

Or as a NC miata replacement. The mustang ecoboost would be perfect in there.

singleslammer PowerDork
Dec. 4, 2016 12:52 p.m.

I wonder how much effort is required to put a 2.3l in a fiesta?

RossD UltimaDork
Dec. 4, 2016 1:55 p.m.

In reply to singleslammer:

If the car came with a 2.0 or 2.3, easy. But, IIRC, the 1.0 and 1.6 are the old sigma bell pattern.

singleslammer PowerDork
Dec. 4, 2016 3:05 p.m.

Yep, no 2.0l. I wouldn't do something like that to my fiesta and at that point I might as well get a completely different chassis

gearheadmb Dork
Dec. 4, 2016 3:07 p.m.

Or there is this

3.5 ecoboost for $500 in Ohio

MattW New Reader
Dec. 4, 2016 3:25 p.m.
gearheadmb wrote: Or there is this 3.5 ecoboost for $500 in Ohio

Is that the going rate on these? I'd think it's a misprint.

yupididit Dork
Dec. 4, 2016 6:14 p.m.

They don't look THAT big.

I know of a beautiful 68' Galaxy that could use a 3.5 EB

T.J. UltimaDork
Dec. 4, 2016 6:19 p.m.

When will they come out with the 1.0L Ecoboost controls package?

Dec. 4, 2016 7:16 p.m.

A 2.3 Fiesta ST would be hilarious fun.

More realistically, a 2.0 or 2.3 econoboost MX5 would be....entertaining.

NOHOME PowerDork
Dec. 5, 2016 6:39 a.m.

Did not the Gas Monkey Monkeys swap on of these into a Pantera or some such? Not familiar with how you tune of of these from a truck donor or even get around the Passive Anti-theft feature?

RossD UltimaDork
Dec. 5, 2016 10:14 a.m.

In reply to NOHOME:

You buy the controls package for $2300 and you don't have to worry about tuning or PAT.

NOHOME PowerDork
Dec. 5, 2016 12:43 p.m.
RossD wrote: In reply to NOHOME: You buy the controls package for $2300 and you don't have to worry about tuning or PAT.

Does the controller work only with the crate engines or can any donor engine from a F150 be run with the $2300 controller?

Knurled MegaDork
Dec. 5, 2016 12:47 p.m.
RossD wrote: With the 2.0/2.3 controls, you could bolt an ecoboost anywhere a duratec or mzr resides.

The 2.0 controller has been out for a long time and works just fine with generic 2.0 Ecoboosts.

What I want to know is, will it talk by CAN, so an Ecoboost-powered first gen Focus could pass a scantool emissions test. Probably not.

Or more awesome, an Ecoboost with a CX-7's AWD automatic transmission, to re-drivetrain a blown up Mazdaspeed6.

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