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Sept. 15, 2009 4:57 p.m. oldsaw Reader
poopshovel wrote:

ignorant wrote:

poopshovel wrote:

OTOH it is really hard to compete with an economy that doesn't give two hoots about environmental issues

I don't buy this argument any more. Do some research on all the greentech they are buying then stfu...

http://features.csmonitor.com/environment/2009/08/10/china%E2%80%99s-green-leap-fo...

Um, I didn't say that. So yeah, why don't YOU stfu man! Yeah! C'mon! Let's fight!

Ooooh, popcorn's on the menu!

Iggy, thanks for the article-link, even if was presented in the expected "douche-y" manner at which you excel.

Some interesting tidbits can be gleaned from the link:
- In spite of going "green", China will remain the world's worst polluter for the foreseeable future - that means a long, long, long time.
- 750,000 Chinese die every year from causes directly-attributed to environmental issues.
- China has focused on "clean-coal" technology, while the concept has been virtually abandoned by the US. Costs and political interference are cited as the main barriers to US development of the processes.
- China will make green-tech work because the government will stifle any dissent and will do what it damn well wants to make it work.
Lots more info in the article.

Thanks, dou, umm Iggy!
Sept. 15, 2009 5:43 p.m. ignorant SuperDork

right so..

reread what poopie wrote..

OTOH it is really hard to compete with an economy that doesn't give two hoots about environmental issues

The operative bits are "dosen't give two hoots about environmental issues."

I'm not arguing about quantity of pollution or where it's coming from or how it got there. Just that the government has decided it is in its best interest to start to clean things up. The chinese have done this because our market isn't the only market they are wooing and they are turning up their noses at goods from dirty countries. So I say the chinese care because they want to expand their penetration into the EU and also firm up whatever they currently have.

Do I think think they're doing it because they are good natured folks? Nope... They know its good for the bottom line.

thanks for playing the.. I'm going to assume that ignorant is arguing an typical liberal train of thought game..

you lose.

now if I remember this is the regular forum so lets end this now.
Sept. 15, 2009 11:12 p.m. oldsaw Reader

ignorant wrote:

right so..

reread what poopie wrote..

OTOH it is really hard to compete with an economy that doesn't give two hoots about environmental issues

The operative bits are "dosen't give two hoots about environmental issues."

I'm not arguing about quantity of pollution or where it's coming from or how it got there. Just that the government has decided it is in its best interest to start to clean things up. The chinese have done this because our market isn't the only market they are wooing and they are turning up their noses at goods from dirty countries. So I say the chinese care because they want to expand their penetration into the EU and also firm up whatever they currently have.

Do I think think they're doing it because they are good natured folks? Nope... They know its good for the bottom line.

thanks for playing the.. I'm going to assume that ignorant is arguing an typical liberal train of thought game..

you lose.

now if I remember this is the regular forum so lets end this now.

You got creds for refuting Poopie's rant and you still come out as a shiny, happy person.

Now, back to our regular scheduled programming....
Sept. 16, 2009 6:27 a.m. bam2002 Reader

So chinese companies open "factory" aka storage area in Venezuela. Change the stampings on the tires to made in South america. So they are made in China, mmoved to South america and then imported with a 3rd party company. This adds 10% to the cost but is still cheaper than the tariff. Its been done before..
Sept. 16, 2009 6:34 a.m. John Brown SuperDork

And Hugo Chavez gets his ego stroked a little more.
Sept. 18, 2009 4:23 p.m. poopshovel SuperDork

ig said:
right so.. reread what poopie wrote.. OTOH it is really hard to compete with an economy that doesn't give two hoots about environmental issues The operative bits are "dosen't give two hoots about environmental issues."

Please reread it again...and then maybe one more time. I NEVER SAID THAT, D00D! Get your once-hip nerd glasses checked, iggy.
Sept. 18, 2009 4:59 p.m. ignorant SuperDork

poopshovel wrote:

ig said:
right so.. reread what poopie wrote.. OTOH it is really hard to compete with an economy that doesn't give two hoots about environmental issues The operative bits are "dosen't give two hoots about environmental issues."

Please reread it again...and then maybe one more time. I NEVER SAID THAT, D00D! Get your once-hip nerd glasses checked, iggy.

yeah u are right....

and I don't care if my glasses was once hip.. I've been wearing black nerd glasses for 10 years and will continue until I die... Nerd 4 life.
Sept. 19, 2009 8:43 a.m. poopshovel SuperDork

ignorant wrote:

poopshovel wrote:

ig said:
right so.. reread what poopie wrote.. OTOH it is really hard to compete with an economy that doesn't give two hoots about environmental issues The operative bits are "dosen't give two hoots about environmental issues."

Please reread it again...and then maybe one more time. I NEVER SAID THAT, D00D! Get your once-hip nerd glasses checked, iggy.

yeah u are right....

and I don't care if my glasses was once hip.. I've been wearing black nerd glasses for 10 years and will continue until I die... Nerd 4 life.

That's hard-core right there, gangstuh.
Sept. 19, 2009 8:59 a.m. ignorant SuperDork

poopshovel wrote:

ignorant wrote:

poopshovel wrote:

ig said:
right so.. reread what poopie wrote.. OTOH it is really hard to compete with an economy that doesn't give two hoots about environmental issues The operative bits are "dosen't give two hoots about environmental issues."

Please reread it again...and then maybe one more time. I NEVER SAID THAT, D00D! Get your once-hip nerd glasses checked, iggy.

yeah u are right....

and I don't care if my glasses was once hip.. I've been wearing black nerd glasses for 10 years and will continue until I die... Nerd 4 life.

That's hard-core right there, gangstuh.

I roll deep.