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Dec. 15, 2009 10:41 p.m. DirtyBird222 Dork
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Dec. 15, 2009 10:49 p.m. mndsm Reader
Hrm. I was told I needed to up the ante when it was revealed that a v12 Miata existed, I suspect this fits the bill.
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Dec. 15, 2009 11:10 p.m. EricM Dork
octa-overhead cam?
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Dec. 15, 2009 11:13 p.m. Appleseed Dork
I'm trying to wrap my head around it. Are two pistons connected around a common crank pin? It seems too close to be parallel crankshafts. What's the deal.
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Dec. 15, 2009 11:32 p.m. HappyAndy HalfDork
W-16?
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Dec. 15, 2009 11:55 p.m. Keith PowerDork
That's my guess. Basically, two VR6s stuck together. Nekkid Bugatti engine? Look at the webbing at the bottom of the block. Pretty.
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Dec. 15, 2009 11:59 p.m. xci_ed6 Reader
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Dec. 16, 2009 9:36 a.m. Ian F HalfDork
When you think about it, it's pretty amazing how technology has reached a point where something like that can be cast.
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Dec. 16, 2009 9:38 a.m. DirtyBird222 Dork
tis a bugatti engine and it's only got 4 camshafts. One per row of 4 cylinders. I know this is an exotic and rare motor, but to think it took 16 cylinders and four turbos to produce 1000bhp when you could have easily done that with a 2JZ + turbo(s), LSx + turbo(s), etc.
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Dec. 16, 2009 9:41 a.m. DirtyBird222 Dork
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Dec. 16, 2009 10:15 a.m. Shaun Reader
DirtyBird222 wrote:
tis a bugatti engine and it's only got 4 camshafts. One per row of 4 cylinders. I know this is an exotic and rare motor, but to think it took 16 cylinders and four turbos to produce 1000bhp when you could have easily done that with a 2JZ + turbo(s), LSx + turbo(s), etc.
Sure. They chose this solution on purpose.
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Dec. 16, 2009 10:25 a.m. MadScientistMatt Dork
I asked them about the crank when I saw it. They said it looks just like a V8 crank with extra-long journals. I was disappointed they didn't have the crank on display though.
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Dec. 16, 2009 10:28 a.m. cghstang Reader
Inquiring minds want to know who was displaying this...
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Dec. 16, 2009 11:21 a.m. 2002maniac Reader
DirtyBird222 wrote:
tis a bugatti engine and it's only got 4 camshafts. One per row of 4 cylinders. I know this is an exotic and rare motor, but to think it took 16 cylinders and four turbos to produce 1000bhp when you could have easily done that with a 2JZ + turbo(s), LSx + turbo(s), etc.
I guess they wanted a semblance of OE drive ability and reliability.
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Dec. 16, 2009 11:22 a.m. Jay Dork
That looks like it would fit in a lot of places a V12 wouldn't.
Is a W8 the same configuration? That would make it shorter than quite a few 4-bangers. Evil gears are definitely turning... -
Dec. 16, 2009 11:34 a.m. Shaun Reader
This is poorly edited clip, but it shows the w16 being assembled. The crank is a particularly interesting piece.
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Dec. 16, 2009 11:53 a.m. DirtyBird222 Dork
2002maniac wrote:
DirtyBird222 wrote:
tis a bugatti engine and it's only got 4 camshafts. One per row of 4 cylinders. I know this is an exotic and rare motor, but to think it took 16 cylinders and four turbos to produce 1000bhp when you could have easily done that with a 2JZ + turbo(s), LSx + turbo(s), etc.
I guess they wanted a semblance of OE drive ability and reliability.
Funny this guys truck makes just as much horsepower with a fraction of the moving parts! http://quadrasteerclub.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/773102732/m/6651036452
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Dec. 16, 2009 12:41 p.m. CGLockRacer Reader
cghstang wrote:
Inquiring minds want to know who was displaying this...
It was at the AVL-Schrick booth at the PRI show. I saw it too :)
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Dec. 16, 2009 12:42 p.m. Adrian_Thompson Reader
DirtyBird222 wrote:
Funny this guys truck makes just as much horsepower with a fraction of the moving parts! http://quadrasteerclub.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/773102732/m/6651036452
I was going to add 'and a fraction of the awesomness' but then I looked at your link and discoverd much awesomness!
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Dec. 16, 2009 3:49 p.m. Shaun Reader
DirtyBird222 wrote:
2002maniac wrote:
DirtyBird222 wrote:
tis a bugatti engine and it's only got 4 camshafts. One per row of 4 cylinders. I know this is an exotic and rare motor, but to think it took 16 cylinders and four turbos to produce 1000bhp when you could have easily done that with a 2JZ + turbo(s), LSx + turbo(s), etc.
I guess they wanted a semblance of OE drive ability and reliability.
Funny this guys truck makes just as much horsepower with a fraction of the moving parts! http://quadrasteerclub.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/773102732/m/6651036452
Did it work out? The link ends in 2007 with the stated goal not yet achieved. Great sleeper for sure at whatever power it ended up at. That is a huge package in comparison with the w16, it would not begin fit in the bugs chassis. Apples and Oranges IMO.
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Dec. 16, 2009 4:30 p.m. alex Dork
Jay wrote:
Is a W8 the same configuration? That would make it shorter than quite a few 4-bangers. Evil gears are definitely turning...
Yep, a W8 is basically half the length of this motor. I imagine a VW guru will chime in as to why it's not a significantly more popular swap candidate.
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Dec. 16, 2009 6:33 p.m. Jay Dork
Holy crap that's a wierd sounding engine. I love that noise.
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Dec. 16, 2009 10:40 p.m. mad_machine PowerDork
that engine needs to go into a locost...
here is a neat cad of a running W16
And of course... if you thought spinning triangles made your head hurt:
