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  • MitchellC

    Oct. 8, 2009 1:27 p.m. MitchellC HalfDork

    I had the same gut reaction regarding altitude, but here's another interpretation: All of these cars are admittedly great at sea level, but of all of them, the Lincoln is least compromised by elevation. If I lived a few thousand feet up, I would be really interested in what drivetrain would give me the best performance bang for the buck in the environment where I lived.

    While the Nurburgring serves as a great benchmark for raw performance, it's a lot more akin to comparing sports statistics. The road is an environment that we can all play in.

  • RossD

    Oct. 8, 2009 2:06 p.m. RossD HalfDork

    My mom even noticed that they said "SHO" rather than "S-H-O".

  • speedblind

    Oct. 8, 2009 2:07 p.m. speedblind Reader

    alfadriver wrote:

    Just got back from the advanced screening. Pretty cool- lots of smiles, lots of kidding toward the two Ford guys features on the show.

    But one funny thing- google is an interesting tool So I've suggested to post this data that Automobile and Motortrend list as the sea level performance data... Sea Level Performance (per Automobile / Motor Trend):

    0-60mph/ 1/4mi

    Lincoln MKS 5.2 sec/13.7 sec

    BMW 550i 5.2/13.7

    Jaguar XF 5.5/14.0

    Maserati Quattroporte 5.3/13.9

    Mercedes Benz E550 4.8/13.4

    it will be interesting to see how that looks to you guys. But the MKS is pretty mid pack at sea level, too.

    Also:

    MKS has lowest power / weight ratio, compensated for by broad, linear torque curve

    MKS has highest EPA highway fuel economy rating @ 25 mpg (vs. average of competitors @ 22 mpg, with Maserati @ 17 mpg = gas guzzler tax)

    MKS has only full five star front & side NHTSA crash test rating

    MKS is tied with Maserati with largest interior volume

    MKS is tied with Jaguar with largest trunk volume

    MKS is $10K - $72K less expensive

    And none of that is mentioned in the show. Neither is the sea level performance.

    Eric

    This post did far more to convince me that the MKS is a contender than the video. Maybe you should be in marketing too.

  • alfadriver

    Oct. 8, 2009 3:14 p.m. alfadriver HalfDork

    speedblind wrote:

    This post did far more to convince me that the MKS is a contender than the video. Maybe you should be in marketing too.

    Here's the funny thing- my google reference ISN'T that the info is freely available on line (which it is). But more about people searching out discussion boards about particular discussions....

    Basically, the data was forwarded to me.

    By a fellow worker.

    Thankfully, said worker was happy about my discussions.

    E-

  • John Brown

    Oct. 8, 2009 4:02 p.m. John Brown MegaDork

    Eric,

    Does this engine share the 2.5L/3.0L Duratec bellhousing?

  • alfadriver

    Oct. 8, 2009 8:02 p.m. alfadriver HalfDork

    John Brown wrote:

    Eric,

    Does this engine share the 2.5L/3.0L Duratec bellhousing?

    No, sadly for what you are thinking, it does not.

    You will see a version or two in different RWD vehicles soon.

    E-

  • RossD

    Oct. 9, 2009 9:40 a.m. RossD HalfDork

    In reply to alfadriver:

    Fricken Sweet!

  • mad_machine

    Oct. 9, 2009 9:58 a.m. mad_machine UberDork

    I am just glad ford is finally giving Lincoln the cars it deserves instead of the rebadged fords it has been giving them.

    Once upon a time Lincolns were quite the car to have.. maybe that time will come around again.

  • Gearheadotaku

    Oct. 9, 2009 11:02 a.m. Gearheadotaku Reader

    jrw1621 wrote: I also do not like the wiper controls being on the turn signal stalk. i would much prefer they be on a sperate stalk on the right side of the wheel. The Fusion has no stalk on the right side of the wheel but the Mazda 6 does.

    I disagree. GM had the turn signals, wipers, and cruise all on a single left stalk for years. I liked this. Everything was within a flick of my left finger, leaving the right hand free for shifting. Now with the last couple of cars I've owned, the wipers are on a right stalk, constantly getting bumped on when I shift, reach for the radio, etc. ANNOYING! Headlight switches belong on the dash, not a stalk. Some newer Porsches have 4 stalks!

  • neon4891

    Oct. 9, 2009 11:30 a.m. neon4891 UltraDork

    In reply to Gearheadotaku: To each their own, but the GM Uni-Stalk is the devil.

  • jrw1621

    Oct. 9, 2009 11:30 a.m. jrw1621 Dork

    Really?
    You like this thing?
    One's own opinion is exactly that, ones own.

  • Autolex

    Oct. 9, 2009 12:01 p.m. Autolex HalfDork

    alfadriver wrote: You will see a version or two in different RWD vehicles soon.

    I hear it's definitely going to be an option in the 2011-2012 F150... how about in a mustang? or a FREAKING (completely and utterly redesigned) RANGER!

  • 96DXCivic

    Oct. 9, 2009 1:45 p.m. 96DXCivic Reader

    It seems like a very impressive car and I love that Ford is finally taking on the European manufacturers. That being said I would really like to see a nearer sea level track test between these cars to see how the Lincoln compares.

  • alfadriver

    Oct. 12, 2009 7:21 p.m. alfadriver HalfDork

    A rather self serving bump. Show is tonight 9:30 EST.

    Put my patents to work... :)

  • ignorant

    Oct. 12, 2009 7:23 p.m. ignorant PowerDork

    alfadriver wrote:

    A rather self serving bump. Show is tonight 9:30 EST.

    Put my patents to work... :)

    I see your self serving bump

    and give you an attaboy bump..

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