Before I go try to "steal" this car from what I believe to be an ill-informed or gullible seller, I want to confirm I'm not the stupid one here. CL ad says his 944 "needs a clutch because can't be put into gear when running" I think that the clutch is fine and the clutch slave is bad, which is a cheap and easy job vs. a clutch job. Am I missing something?
-
June 26, 2010 8:51 p.m. pigeon HalfDork
-
June 26, 2010 9:09 p.m. M030 HalfDork
See if the pedal simply flops to the floor, or is in fact stuck on the floor. If either of these are the case, then there is a good chance it is just the clutch slave.
I've had luck with 944s with bad clutch slaves, but replacing them is not cheap and easy. For some reason, bleeding the hydraulic clutch is a bitch in these cars..for me anyway.
-
June 26, 2010 9:24 p.m. pigeon HalfDork
Thanks. If the pedal appears to function correctly but doesn't actually disengage the clutch, what else am I looking for? "Cheap and easy" is in relation to a full blown clutch job anyway. The article on Pelican makes it seem not too bad to bleed the clutch, so long as you get the tail end of the car waaaay up in the air - is that not the case?
-
June 26, 2010 9:34 p.m. M030 HalfDork
pigeon wrote:
The article on Pelican makes it seem not too bad to bleed the clutch, so long as you get the tail end of the car waaaay up in the air - is that not the case?
It is the case, it's just a PITA to get all the air out.
-
June 26, 2010 10:18 p.m. ansonivan HalfDork
pigeon wrote:
If the pedal appears to function correctly but doesn't actually disengage the clutch, what else am I looking for?
Broken pressure plate or some other issue which will require a clutch teardown.
-
June 27, 2010 8:10 a.m. 16vCorey SuperDork
Actually look at the slave cyl when someone pushes the clutch pedal. If it doesn't move (or doesn't move enough) then it's either the slave or the clutch master cyl. If it moves quite a bit, then it's time to tear it down. The only time I've had trouble bleeding the system was one time I changed a slave cyl because it was dripping, and after hours of trying to bleed it, realized the clutch master cyl was also bad.
-
June 27, 2010 8:37 a.m. 924guy Dork
what He said ^ ... i use a mighty vac to bleed them, never an issue, though now that ive stated it, the next one will be, im sure...
-
June 27, 2010 3:28 p.m. CaptainSpaulding Reader
If the clutch pedal has pressure then the clutch needs replaced.
Sounds just like a later VW. I cant count how many times I have been told by owners that its just the slave and not a clutch. Its almost always the clutch and the owners seem to like the taste of crow.
-
June 28, 2010 5:42 p.m. AngryCorvair SuperDork
could be pilot bearing siezed to input shaft....
