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DIONB
DIONB New Reader
6/21/10 9:22 a.m.

I HAVE RECENTLY RE-AQUIRED A HIGH-MILEAGE 1997 ESCORT 4DR. ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TO SOME MODS? THANKS.

grimmelshanks
grimmelshanks Reader
6/21/10 9:24 a.m.

turboboosters

Carson
Carson Dork
6/21/10 9:26 a.m.

Aside from the obvious, turboboosters, what are you looking to gain from your mods? Fuel efficiency? Power? Handling, Da Ladies? What are your goals with your car?

mndsm
mndsm HalfDork
6/21/10 9:31 a.m.

Be careful... all that shouting causes interior rattles.

Gimp
Gimp Dork
6/21/10 9:37 a.m.

Check the caps lock key... they sometimes get stuck.

grimmelshanks
grimmelshanks Reader
6/21/10 9:41 a.m.

maybe hes just really excited

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
6/21/10 9:44 a.m.

escort it off a shipping dock?

fastmiata
fastmiata Reader
6/21/10 11:11 a.m.

Did you ever hear about the guy who strapped two Jatco(?) rocket boosters to the roof of his Impala? Some call it an urban legend but that might be the best way to get a '97 Escort to perform. YMMV

Klayfish
Klayfish New Reader
6/21/10 11:26 a.m.

Stick a coffee can...the big ones you buy at Sams Club...on the exhaust, get some spinner hub caps from Pep Boys, make a 4' tall rear wing from left over scrap wood, and cover it with stickers. You'll be amazed at how much of a difference it makes....

To actually answer the question, I'd say just drive it. It's not a performance car and you'll spend a fortune just trying to get it to be "respectable". Save your cash and drive the Escort until it hits the ground...which may be next week, so save fast.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
6/21/10 11:32 a.m.
Klayfish wrote: Stick a coffee can...the big ones you buy at Sams Club...on the exhaust, get some spinner hub caps from Pep Boys, make a 4' tall rear wing from left over scrap wood, and cover it with stickers. You'll be amazed at how much of a difference it makes.... To actually answer the question, I'd say just drive it. It's not a performance car and you'll spend a fortune just trying to get it to be "respectable". Save your cash and drive the Escort until it hits the ground...which may be next week, so save fast.

Weren't you just looking at Escorts for your track car? You should know better, sir.

ClemSparks
ClemSparks SuperDork
6/21/10 11:38 a.m.

Ok...

I like old escorts (one of the few FWD cars i'd consider driving, strangely)...but there was a model change between '96 and '97, right?

Is the '97-up pretty much the same chassis with updated styling? Or did they change a lot more?

I'm just curious and thought we should make this thread productive somehow.

I'm surprised by all the escort hate also...they're good little Mazdas, IMO.

Clem

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
6/21/10 11:42 a.m.
ClemSparks wrote: Ok... I like old escorts (one of the few FWD cars i'd consider driving, strangely)...but there was a model change between '96 and '97, right? Is the '97-up pretty much the same chassis with updated styling? Or did they change a lot more? I'm just curious and thought we should make this thread productive somehow. I'm surprised by all the escort hate also...they're good little Mazdas, IMO. Clem

You are correct. It's PRETTY much the same chassis with updated styling, and different motor choices.

Lots of potential there, honestly, though most people tend to ignore it because it's not as easy as making a honda fast.

More aftermarket than most people think, though.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
6/21/10 11:44 a.m.

But really...

Step 1: Buy an MX3 GS V6.
Step 2: Buy KLDE from MX6 V6/Probe GT
Step 3: Remove motors from both cars
Step 4: Insert motor mounts, trans, and wiring harness from MX3, insert motor from MX6.
Step 5: Insert mx3 suspension bits for an increase in track width
Step 6: HOON!!

mndsm
mndsm HalfDork
6/21/10 11:56 a.m.

I was thinkin' b6t personally. I haven't called Cam Waugh's shop in a while......

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
6/21/10 11:57 a.m.
mndsm wrote: I was thinkin' b6t personally. I haven't called Cam Waugh's shop in a while......

Wouldn't be my swap of choice in a 3rd gen. Lots of hassles to end up with similar power you could get out of just boosting the motor that's in there.

But still an idea, and i'm always FOR boost.

Of course... could always boost the KLDE after swapping? 350whp from a boosted KLDE would be a whole lot of HOLY E36 M3 in a 3rd gen escort.

Carson
Carson Dork
6/21/10 12:04 p.m.

Honestly the best bang for the buck would be to buy the FoMoCoTo struts from Jegs for under $200, slap on the S/R springs and hit the autocross.

Klayfish
Klayfish New Reader
6/21/10 12:14 p.m.
93celicaGT2 wrote:
Klayfish wrote: Stick a coffee can...the big ones you buy at Sams Club...on the exhaust, get some spinner hub caps from Pep Boys, make a 4' tall rear wing from left over scrap wood, and cover it with stickers. You'll be amazed at how much of a difference it makes.... To actually answer the question, I'd say just drive it. It's not a performance car and you'll spend a fortune just trying to get it to be "respectable". Save your cash and drive the Escort until it hits the ground...which may be next week, so save fast.

Weren't you just looking at Escorts for your track car? You should know better, sir.

Ahhh....touche' Yup, but the EGT is a whole different animal. Actually, I'd say the old Escort sedans were pretty good "transportation appliances". Nearly bought one back around '99 when I working in the field, driving 30k+ per year.

pres589
pres589 HalfDork
6/21/10 12:18 p.m.

Some of these cars roll on pizza cutters; +1 wheel & tire upgrade using junkyard rims might be a nice little improvement.

Wondering how choked up the intake piping from the airbox to the throttle body is, might be a good place to focus and should be cheap to do with the right pieces of hose & a drop-in K&N.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
6/21/10 12:19 p.m.
Klayfish wrote:
93celicaGT2 wrote:
Klayfish wrote: Stick a coffee can...the big ones you buy at Sams Club...on the exhaust, get some spinner hub caps from Pep Boys, make a 4' tall rear wing from left over scrap wood, and cover it with stickers. You'll be amazed at how much of a difference it makes.... To actually answer the question, I'd say just drive it. It's not a performance car and you'll spend a fortune just trying to get it to be "respectable". Save your cash and drive the Escort until it hits the ground...which may be next week, so save fast.

Weren't you just looking at Escorts for your track car? You should know better, sir.

Ahhh....touche' Yup, but the EGT is a whole different animal. Actually, I'd say the old Escort sedans were pretty good "transportation appliances". Nearly bought one back around '99 when I working in the field, driving 30k+ per year.

The motor is really the only thing different. That said, they're still way cooler.

STS_ZX2
STS_ZX2 New Reader
6/21/10 12:22 p.m.
Carson wrote: Honestly the best bang for the buck would be to buy the FoMoCoTo struts from Jegs for under $200, slap on the S/R springs and hit the autocross.

Yes. OE ZX2 S/R dampers--made by Tokico work nicely with something like Eibach (ZX2 S/R OE) springs. Also, take off the OE 13mm RSB--and go to a junkyard and find a RSB from any 91-96 hatch (19mm hollow), or from an Escort GT/Protege LX (21mm solid). I belive that wagon bars were also 21mm.

The chassis is a Mazda Protege BG--so any ZX2/MX3 coilovers would work too. Koni makes inserts (MX3) in the old "Red" style--but for the money the S/R stuff is good.

Brake upgrades are junkyard fare as well--again, EGT and ProLX...get you rear discs.

Wheels--are common 4x100, and the hub is a 54.1 (small) so nearly anything works. 15x7 ET 40 wheels are a dime a dozen--all over CL or Ebay.

DIONB
DIONB New Reader
6/21/10 2:39 p.m.

In reply to maroon92:

thanks for your helpful suggestion...why didn't I think of that?

DIONB
DIONB New Reader
6/21/10 2:41 p.m.

In reply to Carson:

Ummmm....obviously not "Da Ladies" (With and escort? Really?)

DIONB
DIONB New Reader
6/21/10 2:43 p.m.

In reply to mndsm:

Maybe so, but at least the rattling partially obscures the voices in my head.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
6/21/10 2:46 p.m.

I like the new guy...

DIONB
DIONB New Reader
6/21/10 2:47 p.m.

In reply to fastmiata:

Seriously, I do not have the financial wherewithall to be able to afford the rocket boosters. Would you like to contribute, or shall I continue development on my ignition device for my intestinal flatulence?

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