I remember that car! I was shocked the first time we happened to line up at the beginning of the straight. Its VERY rare for anyone to out-drag us. I was not mentally prepared for that (especially since I was expecting you to have a 12A...)
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Dec. 1, 2011 10:18 p.m. eyesoreracing New Reader
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Dec. 1, 2011 10:36 p.m. Greg Voth HalfDork
Honestly a couple times I was trying to line up on the back straight with you all. Sucks that I had to let off 2/3rds of the way down so I could make the turn. Then you'd go flying by. I don't think anything out dragged us that day. I appreciated the clean racing and enjoyed dicing it up. It was a nice introduction to crap can racing.
Went through 11 sets of pads that race. In retrospect RockAuto Clearance pads may not have been the most wise choice!
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Dec. 2, 2011 7:10 a.m. tuna55 SuperDork
Tom Heath wrote:
When I was living in Japan, the rich dudes were using Titanium cat backs with Inconel (!!!!) downpipes. Ever priced raw Inconel?
Not only is it expensive, but for an exhaust, it makes pretty much no sense at all. Weird. Must be like those guys that gold plate their wheels.
"I got sick of throwing $100 bills in the shredder this morning, so I decided to spend as much money as possible on this wheel for no reason."
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Dec. 2, 2011 7:35 a.m. DILYSI Dave SuperDork
Why no sense? Inconel is super corrosion resistant and handles remarkably high temperatures, and titanium is equally corrosion resistant and uber light.
I agree that it's a retarded way to spend money on a street car, but not because of the lack of suitability for the job.
Had I moved forward with further mods on my Civic, they were going to invovle a 3" titanium straight pipe right off the turbo, dumping out the front bumper like the previous MX6.
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Dec. 2, 2011 8:46 a.m. 4cylndrfury SuperDork
Dave spot...Dave point...whatever, the point is I remembered, and therefore should be receiving a cookie any minute now.
I prefer Macadamia or Snickerdoodles...
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Dec. 2, 2011 9:01 a.m. tuna55 SuperDork
DILYSI Dave wrote:
Why no sense? Inconel is super corrosion resistant and handles remarkably high temperatures, and titanium is equally corrosion resistant and uber light.
I agree that it's a retarded way to spend money on a street car, but not because of the lack of suitability for the job.
Had I moved forward with further mods on my Civic, they were going to invovle a 3" titanium straight pipe right off the turbo, dumping out the front bumper like the previous MX6.
Stainless is corrosion resistance enough for an exhaust system, and 'handling high temperatures' is indeed true, but to what gain? The temperatures there are not high enough that regular old Stainless would be a poor choice.
Disclaimer, I am an engineer. Choosing high price exotic materials every time is lazy, especially if they really aren't good choices. Nobody wants to hear this, but a guy who can engineer a bracket to hold five things on a Camry for $2 is a better engineer than the guy who gets to engineer an engine on a Ferrari.
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Dec. 2, 2011 10:31 a.m. 93EXCivic SuperDork
tuna55 wrote:
Disclaimer, I am an engineer. Choosing high price exotic materials every time is lazy, especially if they really aren't good choices. Nobody wants to hear this, but a guy who can engineer a bracket to hold five things on a Camry for $2 is a better engineer than the guy who gets to engineer an engine on a Ferrari.
But which would you rather do?
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Dec. 2, 2011 10:31 a.m. njansenv HalfDork
tuna55 wrote: Nobody wants to hear this, but a guy who can engineer a bracket to hold five things on a Camry for $2 is a better engineer than the guy who gets to engineer an engine on a Ferrari.
Disclaimer: I'm an engineer too, and no engineer would make that conclusion without more data to support that thesis.
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Dec. 2, 2011 10:33 a.m. 92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
DILYSI Dave wrote:
Why no sense? Inconel is super corrosion resistant and handles remarkably high temperatures, and titanium is equally corrosion resistant and uber light.
I agree that it's a retarded way to spend money on a street car, but not because of the lack of suitability for the job.
Had I moved forward with further mods on my Civic, they were going to invovle a 3" titanium straight pipe right off the turbo, dumping out the front bumper like the previous MX6.
Would that have been SMF legal still? Now you've got me wondering about the exhaust on the Escort.
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Dec. 2, 2011 11:21 a.m. e_pie Reader
tuna55 wrote:
Tom Heath wrote:
When I was living in Japan, the rich dudes were using Titanium cat backs with Inconel (!!!!) downpipes. Ever priced raw Inconel?
Not only is it expensive, but for an exhaust, it makes pretty much no sense at all. Weird. Must be like those guys that gold plate their wheels.
"I got sick of throwing $100 bills in the shredder this morning, so I decided to spend as much money as possible on this wheel for no reason."
F1 cars have inconel exhausts, makes perfect sense why you would stick one on a Honda.
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Dec. 2, 2011 12:11 p.m. AngryCorvair SuperDork
Dave Coleman? never heard of him, until this thread, but i'm a fanboi now. project miatabusa speaks to me on so many levels.
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Dec. 2, 2011 12:12 p.m. 93EXCivic SuperDork
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
DILYSI Dave wrote:
Why no sense? Inconel is super corrosion resistant and handles remarkably high temperatures, and titanium is equally corrosion resistant and uber light.
I agree that it's a retarded way to spend money on a street car, but not because of the lack of suitability for the job.
Had I moved forward with further mods on my Civic, they were going to invovle a 3" titanium straight pipe right off the turbo, dumping out the front bumper like the previous MX6.
Would that have been SMF legal still? Now you've got me wondering about the exhaust on the Escort.
I am wondering about that to for the Yugo.
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Dec. 2, 2011 12:57 p.m. DILYSI Dave SuperDork
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
DILYSI Dave wrote:
Why no sense? Inconel is super corrosion resistant and handles remarkably high temperatures, and titanium is equally corrosion resistant and uber light.
I agree that it's a retarded way to spend money on a street car, but not because of the lack of suitability for the job.
Had I moved forward with further mods on my Civic, they were going to invovle a 3" titanium straight pipe right off the turbo, dumping out the front bumper like the previous MX6.
Would that have been SMF legal still? Now you've got me wondering about the exhaust on the Escort.
Yep. Rules say that exhaust has to exit behind the driver or to the side. Front bumper dump would exit to the side.
Now, I was concerned about being able to get the car quiet enough, and put my odds on being able to pull that part off at 50-50.
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Dec. 2, 2011 1:22 p.m. 92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
DILYSI Dave wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
DILYSI Dave wrote:
Why no sense? Inconel is super corrosion resistant and handles remarkably high temperatures, and titanium is equally corrosion resistant and uber light.
I agree that it's a retarded way to spend money on a street car, but not because of the lack of suitability for the job.
Had I moved forward with further mods on my Civic, they were going to invovle a 3" titanium straight pipe right off the turbo, dumping out the front bumper like the previous MX6.
Would that have been SMF legal still? Now you've got me wondering about the exhaust on the Escort.
Yep. Rules say that exhaust has to exit behind the driver or to the side. Front bumper dump would exit to the side.
Now, I was concerned about being able to get the car quiet enough, and put my odds on being able to pull that part off at 50-50.
Well... i meant with no cat. Or does street mod not require cats?
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Dec. 2, 2011 1:41 p.m. DILYSI Dave SuperDork
No cat required.
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Dec. 2, 2011 1:42 p.m. 92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
DILYSI Dave wrote:
No cat required.
Thanks!
Looks like further hackage of the baller Corksport exhaust will be required for the greater good.
THE GREATER GOOD.
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Dec. 3, 2011 8:56 a.m. PaulY Reader
Not sure if this helps but the later J35's have a built in Al header on the head.
Btw I'm a massive fan of Dave Coleman's work and although it sucked to loose SCC at least there's Motoiq to fill the void.
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Dec. 11, 2011 5:24 p.m. Knurled Dork
ProDarwin wrote:
DILYSI Dave wrote:
"Don't start with that "you need backpressure" horseE36 M3. It isn't true."
You and me baby. One of these days we will correct this myth.
One of the best myths! Right along side "torque wins races" and the hub-centric wheel myth.
Man, we should get together on this. I'll handle the myth about water moving too fast through the radiator to cool the engine off. These four myths comprise about 95% of my automotive tech nerd-rage.
