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  • wcelliot

    Nov. 5, 2010 8:47 a.m. wcelliot HalfDork

    That photo reminds me of a story my friend told me on one of the washes he services (actually he had several... including a woman who got a new mercedes somehow parked sidewides in the middle of an automated wash).

    He got a call for an emergency service... and as he rounded the corner near the wash encountered a 3' high wall of suds... the full width of the street and halfway down the block.

    Somebody at the wash had hooked up a high pressure supply hose to the bank of soap barrels.... and when he activated the wash, he started emptying them quickly. And was afraid to go back into the wash and shut it down....

  • poopshovel

    Nov. 5, 2010 9:08 a.m. poopshovel SuperDork

    Again - weird - I was just thinking of this the other day.

    At a full-service wash, I'm guessing the overhead would be crazy. I was a manager at a car wash like that in gainesville FL for a couple years. IIRC, boss man told me the equipment was $1mil. Plus, we had 6 - 10 employees vacuuming, cleaning windows, cleaning interior, drying, etc. Plus, if I had to guess, the liability insurance would be pricey...especially after you roll the first car into the reclaim pond (happened once while I was there.) So yeah, overhead.

    Like others have said, though, at the right location, one should be able to pull in some decent coin. Washes ranged from $5 to $25. I'd guess our average ticket was $10. On a REALLY busy summer day, we'd roll 300 cars...which is why this seems physically impossible:

    JFX001 wrote:

    I worked at one in MI while I was in college. One guy to take the money, 2 to do the rinse/pre-soak and send them through and 2 to dry with towels at the end.

    Winter was suckage, weekends had 120-130 cars per hour. Minimum wash was $4.95. You split the tips.

    Anyway, that's $3k/day on the busy days. Probably $500-$600 in labor. Not sure what the chemicals cost per day or the vacuums cost to run.

    Cleaning the pit ain't so bad. I did it every week; as there was a 10 dollar bonus for whoever did it, and everyone else was too lazy/pussified to get dirty. I also stayed late on Saturdays and dug through the vacuum bags. That was usually an extra $7-$10 for a half-hour of dirty work.

  • JFX001

    Nov. 5, 2010 9:30 a.m. JFX001 SuperDork

    poopshovel wrote:

    Again - weird - I was just thinking of this the other day.

    At a full-service wash, I'm guessing the overhead would be crazy. I was a manager at a car wash like that in gainesville FL for a couple years. IIRC, boss man told me the equipment was $1mil. Plus, we had 6 - 10 employees vacuuming, cleaning windows, cleaning interior, drying, etc. Plus, if I had to guess, the liability insurance would be pricey...especially after you roll the first car into the reclaim pond (happened once while I was there.) So yeah, overhead.

    Like others have said, though, at the right location, one should be able to pull in some decent coin. Washes ranged from $5 to $25. I'd guess our average ticket was $10. On a REALLY busy summer day, we'd roll 300 cars...which is why this seems physically impossible:

    JFX001 wrote:

    I worked at one in MI while I was in college. One guy to take the money, 2 to do the rinse/pre-soak and send them through and 2 to dry with towels at the end.

    Winter was suckage, weekends had 120-130 cars per hour. Minimum wash was $4.95. You split the tips.

    Anyway, that's $3k/day on the busy days. Probably $500-$600 in labor. Not sure what the chemicals cost per day or the vacuums cost to run.

    Cleaning the pit ain't so bad. I did it every week; as there was a 10 dollar bonus for whoever did it, and everyone else was too lazy/pussified to get dirty. I also stayed late on Saturdays and dug through the vacuum bags. That was usually an extra $7-$10 for a half-hour of dirty work.

    Poop,

    It was Michigan...in the Winter. The wash was/is Soft-Shine on Novi Road (right next to Kim's Chinese restaurant for the MI peeps.). Great location, just a wash, there were self-service vacuums.

  • poopshovel

    Nov. 5, 2010 10:25 a.m. poopshovel SuperDork

    JFX001 wrote:

    poopshovel wrote:

    Again - weird - I was just thinking of this the other day.

    At a full-service wash, I'm guessing the overhead would be crazy. I was a manager at a car wash like that in gainesville FL for a couple years. IIRC, boss man told me the equipment was $1mil. Plus, we had 6 - 10 employees vacuuming, cleaning windows, cleaning interior, drying, etc. Plus, if I had to guess, the liability insurance would be pricey...especially after you roll the first car into the reclaim pond (happened once while I was there.) So yeah, overhead.

    Like others have said, though, at the right location, one should be able to pull in some decent coin. Washes ranged from $5 to $25. I'd guess our average ticket was $10. On a REALLY busy summer day, we'd roll 300 cars...which is why this seems physically impossible:

    JFX001 wrote:

    I worked at one in MI while I was in college. One guy to take the money, 2 to do the rinse/pre-soak and send them through and 2 to dry with towels at the end.

    Winter was suckage, weekends had 120-130 cars per hour. Minimum wash was $4.95. You split the tips.

    Anyway, that's $3k/day on the busy days. Probably $500-$600 in labor. Not sure what the chemicals cost per day or the vacuums cost to run.

    Cleaning the pit ain't so bad. I did it every week; as there was a 10 dollar bonus for whoever did it, and everyone else was too lazy/pussified to get dirty. I also stayed late on Saturdays and dug through the vacuum bags. That was usually an extra $7-$10 for a half-hour of dirty work.

    Poop,

    It was Michigan...in the Winter. The wash was/is Soft-Shine on Novi Road (right next to Kim's Chinese restaurant for the MI peeps.). Great location, just a wash, there were self-service vacuums.

    Word. I'm sure self-service vacuum cuts down on the time a lot...and saves your back! Still, 120-130 cars and hour with 5 guys is HUSTLIN'!!! Nice work!

  • dyintorace

    Nov. 5, 2010 10:34 a.m. dyintorace SuperDork

    poopshovel wrote:

    Again - weird - I was just thinking of this the other day.

    At a full-service wash, I'm guessing the overhead would be crazy. I was a manager at a car wash like that in gainesville FL for a couple years. IIRC, boss man told me the equipment was $1mil. Plus, we had 6 - 10 employees vacuuming, cleaning windows, cleaning interior, drying, etc. Plus, if I had to guess, the liability insurance would be pricey...especially after you roll the first car into the reclaim pond (happened once while I was there.) So yeah, overhead.

    Park Place on Tower Rd, just south of Newberry Rd? If so, interestingly, they added a full self-serve set up next door to the existing facility!

  • MrJoshua

    Nov. 5, 2010 12:15 p.m. MrJoshua SuperDork

    dyintorace wrote:

    poopshovel wrote:

    Again - weird - I was just thinking of this the other day.

    At a full-service wash, I'm guessing the overhead would be crazy. I was a manager at a car wash like that in gainesville FL for a couple years. IIRC, boss man told me the equipment was $1mil. Plus, we had 6 - 10 employees vacuuming, cleaning windows, cleaning interior, drying, etc. Plus, if I had to guess, the liability insurance would be pricey...especially after you roll the first car into the reclaim pond (happened once while I was there.) So yeah, overhead.

    Park Place on Tower Rd, just south of Newberry Rd? If so, interestingly, they added a full self-serve set up next door to the existing facility!

    And a nice sturdy railing/wall to keep cars out of the retention pond.

  • poopshovel

    Nov. 5, 2010 3:35 p.m. poopshovel SuperDork

    dyintorace wrote:

    poopshovel wrote:

    Again - weird - I was just thinking of this the other day.

    At a full-service wash, I'm guessing the overhead would be crazy. I was a manager at a car wash like that in gainesville FL for a couple years. IIRC, boss man told me the equipment was $1mil. Plus, we had 6 - 10 employees vacuuming, cleaning windows, cleaning interior, drying, etc. Plus, if I had to guess, the liability insurance would be pricey...especially after you roll the first car into the reclaim pond (happened once while I was there.) So yeah, overhead.

    Park Place on Tower Rd, just south of Newberry Rd? If so, interestingly, they added a full self-serve set up next door to the existing facility!

    Nah. Used to be "Archer Rd. HandY." It looks all weird now, like some funky tiki bar thing...though it's apparently still a car wash. Looks like the old man either kicked it or retired.

  • BowtieBandit

    Nov. 5, 2010 6:38 p.m. BowtieBandit New Reader

    Its threads like this that make me love this forum. As I myself have looked at opening one, this is good infomation. And the stories you guys tell always have me chuckling.

    As far as my little town, we don't get bad snow, but after it does, the next nice day all the washes are way backed up. Theres two washes owned by a so-called chain, two privatly owned. And only one attached to a gas station. Needless to say, the market is very saturated here.

  • Keith

    Nov. 5, 2010 7:06 p.m. Keith SuperDork

    There's always this option.

    Seriously, interesting stuff. I'm going to start paying more attention.

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