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  • NickF40

    March 2, 2011 2:04 p.m. NickF40 HalfDork

    Well what I have to say, i'll get banned. Bernie needs to die and we need to go back to the 90's where it was actually RACING in F1

    Way to go!! Turning F1 into NASCAR!

    massive facepalm

  • Matt B

    March 2, 2011 2:07 p.m. Matt B HalfDork

    Not all of Ecclestone's ideas have been warmly met in the past:such examples include having shortcuts available to drivers in races and his desire to decide the World Championship on medals rather than the current points system, which itself was only revamped last season.

    Bernie just misses the old arcade racers from the nineties.

  • NickF40

    March 2, 2011 2:18 p.m. NickF40 HalfDork

    why is professional racing going backwards? wussified? rule galore??

    Grow balls and actually race the car, no shortcuts, no artificial rain, your not out there to make friends on the track, your not going to date, your a RACE CAR driver, I wish I was a little older in the 90's when racing was racing, drivers drove, they weren't celebrities, weren't pretty boys, the cars were loud, fast, obnoxious, wide, low and you had to have balls, you didn't bitch when someone was faster you just drove harder...... People want to see that in racing.....at least that's me

  • carguy123

    March 2, 2011 2:23 p.m. carguy123 SuperDork

    Well racing in the 90's is partially why we have all the rules today. When you give them unlimited budgets and design criteria they get too fast for the circuits and people die.

  • NickF40

    March 2, 2011 2:28 p.m. NickF40 HalfDork

    Yes but with safety the way it is now we could. I mean don't go crazy like that but bring back the 90's mentality and build but hey racings dangerous period....

  • oldsaw

    March 2, 2011 2:33 p.m. oldsaw SuperDork

    carguy123 wrote:

    Well racing in the 90's is partially why we have all the rules today. When you give them unlimited budgets and design criteria they get too fast for the circuits and people die.

    QFT...........

    And racing in the 60's, 70's and 80's led to racing in the 90's.

    Which is why the design specs for the cars and the circuits have led F1 to an era of look-alikes. There are what, 12 different teams interpreting the same rules package? And they all end up with cars that look very similar to each other.

    Same thing goes for the tracks, regardless of who puts pen-to-paper......

  • NickF40

    March 2, 2011 2:58 p.m. NickF40 HalfDork

    I forgot about this, thanks Clarkson! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDtn8QnpFg

  • carguy123

    March 2, 2011 3:39 p.m. carguy123 SuperDork

    You could make the argument that we're paying for CanAm with the present regs.

    As far as the cars looking alike, it's amazing how designating a few things like front and rear wings determines the best body in between.

  • Joe Gearin

    March 2, 2011 4:13 p.m. Joe Gearin Associate Publisher

    T.J. wrote:

    Duke wrote:

    And pretentious F1 fanbois STILL look down their noses at NASCAR?

    When did NASCAR start racing in the rain?

    The Nationwide series raced in a pretty serious downpour in Mexico last year. They added wipers to the cars and had at it. I'd like to see them do more of that. (at least on the road courses)

  • JoeyM

    March 2, 2011 4:21 p.m. JoeyM SuperDork

    NickF40 wrote:

    I forgot about this, thanks Clarkson! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDtn8QnpFg

    epic.

  • NickF40

    March 2, 2011 4:30 p.m. NickF40 HalfDork

    Very epic indeed

  • Will

    March 2, 2011 5:40 p.m. Will HalfDork

    I demand jumps, Bernie!

  • March 2, 2011 6:17 p.m. TR8owner Reader

    Bernie's been pissing off F1 fans for three decades. Sad thing is he'll probably never retire.

  • Moparman

    March 2, 2011 6:34 p.m. Moparman HalfDork

    Duke wrote:

    And pretentious F1 fanbois STILL look down their noses at NASCAR?

    Yup, now I have two series on which to look down. Wait, make that three. I almost forgot about Indy Car. Racing just keeps getting better and better.

  • novaderrik

    March 3, 2011 11:46 p.m. novaderrik HalfDork

    NickF40 wrote:

    I forgot about this, thanks Clarkson! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDtn8QnpFg

    so let me get this straight- when a couple of Formula 1 drivers bump a couple of times and refuse to back down when they are getting passed, it's considered an "epic battle", but when NASCAR racers do the exact same thing it's considered backwards and unsophisticated?

  • neon4891

    March 4, 2011 12:00 a.m. neon4891 SuperDork

    In reply to novaderrik:

    F1 drivers dont have an extra ton of steel to protect them.

  • dinger

    March 4, 2011 8:03 a.m. dinger New Reader

    When F1 cars bump they can end up doing their best Cessena impression:

    When NASCAR cars bump they do their best Dunkin Donuts guy impression: (time to make the donuts)

  • Hal

    March 4, 2011 3:55 p.m. Hal Dork

    What is wrong with racing in the rain?

  • Strizzo

    March 4, 2011 4:31 p.m. Strizzo SuperDork

    so bernie talks about how great the "medals" idea would be because people don't want to finish second or third, then cites an example where the championship would have been decided between two drivers based on their fourth place finishes?

    does not compute

    also, what makes the rain racing interesting is that it is unpredictable, if you know exactly when the track will become wet and when the rain will stop, all you are doing is mandating a pit stop right before the "rain" stops, and then again when you turn it off. thats just silly. he'd be better off trying to schedule the season during snow season, so theres a chance of wet or icy conditions.

    maybe he could add some of those turbo booster arrows to the track, too

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