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  • Racer1ab

    Nov. 20, 2009 11:49 p.m. Racer1ab New Reader

    kreb wrote:

    think the Hybrid leadership going to the Prius still has a lot to do with "body exlusivity." What I mean is all Priuses are Hybrids, not the case with the old Civic Hybrid (also in gas version.) Same with the Fusion and or Ford Escape hybrid.
    I think that you're right. Ford acts as if people want the hybrid aspect to be invisible, whereas most hybrid owners seem to want to say "HEY LOOK AT ME. I'M GREEN!"

    I think Jay Leno said it best, "In America, we like people to know about the good work we are doing anonymously."

  • DirtyBird222

    Nov. 21, 2009 12:09 a.m. DirtyBird222 Dork

    Ian F wrote:

    alfadriver wrote: Ian- you complain that the US companies abandonded the wagon segement- which, exactly, Toyota and Honda fill that need? AFAIKT, we are matching them stride for stride- you can't lay a generalization of "US companies" when two of the larget Japanese companies are doing the same thing.

    We are not competeting with Subaru, they are pretty much the only mid-size wagon out there. Other than that, it's CUV's and small SUV's. See the Honda Accord crossover thingy as an example.

    True...

    Thanks to my "Japenese-car-hating-G/F", Japanese cars aren't really on the radar as possible purchases, so I'm comparing US offerings to the Euro brands. No, not really apples to apples, but that's where I'm at right now... And while there are a few Euro wagons, there are none that I feel are worth the asking prices... and I see some of these nice US sedans coming out and it depresses me to know there won't be a wagon version like there used to be...

    As I've posted in other threads, Subaru fell off my possible purchase list when they went AWD back in the 90's...

    I only bothered to read the first line of your post. But your girlfriend sounds smart. Japanese cars lack souls.

  • Wally

    Nov. 21, 2009 2:00 a.m. Wally UberDork

    DukeOfUndersteer wrote:

    they should bring Jackie Stewart back as the spokesman...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Ws_Bp7WYA

    Jackie Stewart also thought he had a good haircut. Too bad fusion doesn't end in an "o" For an awful car it had some great commercials.

    We're looking at the Fusion Hybrid for the wife for next year.

  • Racer1ab

    Nov. 21, 2009 3:19 a.m. Racer1ab New Reader

    DirtyBird222 wrote:

    Japanese cars lack souls.

    I had a response ready, then remembered this summed it up far better.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

  • DWNSHFT

    Nov. 21, 2009 12:07 p.m. DWNSHFT Reader

    The new Fusion and the old Fusion are great cars. And, having driven the new SHO, it's also impressive. Very fast.

    David

  • MiatarPowar

    Nov. 23, 2009 9:57 a.m. MiatarPowar HalfDork

    Racer1ab wrote:

    DirtyBird222 wrote:

    Japanese cars lack souls.

    I had a response ready, then remembered this summed it up far better.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

    I laughed.

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