I noticed in the rules it saya passenger cars so does that mean no pick ups ?
Stan
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Nov. 2, 2008 6:45 p.m. stan_d Dork
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Nov. 2, 2008 7:00 p.m. Osterkraut Reader
There's been a pickup at the Challenge before, take that as you will.
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Nov. 3, 2008 12:04 a.m. evildky Dork
pickups are allowed, just no batvans
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Nov. 3, 2008 5:29 a.m. Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director
Pick ups are ok...as long as they are 2wd. Vehicle must meet SCCA and Nasa autocross rules.
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Nov. 3, 2008 5:58 a.m. 914Driver Dork
evildky wrote:
pickups are allowed, just no batvans
Why?
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Nov. 3, 2008 6:18 a.m. MrJoshua SuperDork
914Driver wrote:
evildky wrote:
pickups are allowed, just no batvans
Why?
The famous BatVan had limited escape routes in case of rollover. So I think a BatVan without a computer command center between the driver and the passenger door might be OK.
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Nov. 3, 2008 6:53 a.m. 914Driver Dork
MrJoshua wrote:
914Driver wrote:
evildky wrote:
pickups are allowed, just no batvans
Why?
The famous BatVan had limited escape routes in case of rollover. So I think a BatVan without a computer command center between the driver and the passenger door might be OK.
That issue was fixed in the rules for the next Challenge.
I believe, but can't confirm, that because of the pre-flight issues I and other cometitors had, the Challenge was move from April to October; giving us snowbirds more time to de-bug.
I have the next one already built {in my head} I just have to do the nuts and bolts now.....
Dan
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Nov. 3, 2008 5:00 p.m. SVreX UltraDork
I loved the BatVan.
But with all due respect (and appreciation!) to Dan and his team, I'm not sure it would have made it through tech. There was no separation (firewall) between the engine and the driver's compartment.
Tech inspection was fairly lax. It has gotten a little tougher since then.
Plus, no 2nd exit, which is now illegal.
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Nov. 3, 2008 11:10 p.m. evildky Dork
no doubt the batvan was call as hell but I'd be afraid to drive it and I am stupid
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Nov. 4, 2008 6:51 a.m. 914Driver Dork
blockquote>SVreX wrote:
I loved the BatVan.
But with all due respect (and appreciation!) to Dan and his team, I'm not sure it would have made it through tech. There was no separation (firewall) between the engine and the driver's compartment.
Tech inspection was fairly lax. It has gotten a little tougher since then.
Plus, no 2nd exit, which is now illegal.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/914Dan/Bat%20Bus%20/Img_0011.jpg[/IMG]
Dan was the team.
There was a separation between the engine compartment and driver.
Agreed, it was scary to drive, but hey, I didn't make it to be on the street. I had such a good time anyway, I have been scheming to go back ever since.
Dan
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Nov. 4, 2008 7:57 a.m. JmfnB UltimaDork
I would have rocked it. Imagine a Senecal-Nelson inspired Batvan...
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Nov. 4, 2008 9:19 a.m. SVreX UltraDork
914Driver wrote:
blockquote>SVreX wrote:
I loved the BatVan.
But with all due respect (and appreciation!) to Dan and his team, I'm not sure it would have made it through tech. There was no separation (firewall) between the engine and the driver's compartment.
Tech inspection was fairly lax. It has gotten a little tougher since then.
Plus, no 2nd exit, which is now illegal.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/914Dan/Bat%20Bus%20/Img_0011.jpg[/IMG]
Dan was the team.
There was a separation between the engine compartment and driver.
Agreed, it was scary to drive, but hey, I didn't make it to be on the street. I had such a good time anyway, I have been scheming to go back ever since.
Dan
OK, my apologies. I was pretty sure I didn't see it.
-SVreX
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Nov. 4, 2008 12:19 p.m. Jensenman UltimaDork
evildky wrote:
no doubt the batvan was call as hell but I'd be afraid to drive it and I am stupid
I would have climbed my fat azz in the drivers' seat in a split second.
That would have been so cool, to be able to say I drove the famous BatVan.
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Nov. 4, 2008 12:33 p.m. 914Driver Dork
You can have it if you want. It hasn't moved in years....
And I don't think GRM is thick enough for a Senecal - Nelson inspired BatVan.
THAT's scary!
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Nov. 4, 2008 12:38 p.m. JmfnB UltimaDork
Like an ICBM... Goes really fast then goes BOOM!
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Nov. 4, 2008 12:45 p.m. patgizz Dork
i can has batvan now?
that thing was sweet.
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Nov. 4, 2008 1:47 p.m. 914Driver Dork
Yes. You can has it. I pulled the motor & tranny, the posi rear end but left the guy another rear end. It's sitting in a parking lot on the ground (frame) but he has all the stuff including wheels & tires to make it roll away.
It's a VW shop that was going to make a mailbox out of it....
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Nov. 4, 2008 1:54 p.m. miatame2 New Reader
How about small 2wd SUVs like Blazer, Jeep, etc?
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Nov. 4, 2008 3:17 p.m. SVreX UltraDork
Vehicle must meet SCCA and Nasa autocross rules.
That is generally a judgement call on the part of the track officials. They are looking for high rollover risk. Several cars are specifically excluded, like the Suzuki Samurai.
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Nov. 4, 2008 4:26 p.m. stan_d Dork
so a slammed full size would be ok then
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Nov. 4, 2008 4:34 p.m. JmfnB UltimaDork
Triple yes Stan.
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Nov. 10, 2008 7:32 p.m. David_Chong New Reader
There is a Datsun pickup entered into the 2009 West Coast Challenge, in the $1000 class. Project log is at this link.
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Nov. 10, 2008 8:21 p.m. MrJoshua SuperDork
Man-look at all that width for posts on that forum
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Nov. 11, 2008 3:01 p.m. miatame2 New Reader
David_Chong wrote:
There is a Datsun pickup entered into the 2009 West Coast Challenge, in the $1000 class. Project log is at this link.
That forum is lame...they limit how many pages you can look at without being a member...booooo!
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Nov. 11, 2008 10:53 p.m. Mental UltraDork
So join, they are good dudes over there
