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  • June 18, 2008 10:40 p.m. Purplehaze New Reader

    Obviously pretty old news around here, but still, this year's LeMans (not to be confused with its fun loving redneck cousin) had the diesels just whupping up on everybody else. I would have thought the gas cars would step their game waaay up after underestimating the Audi diesel last year. I'm sure they did, in fact, and the diesels fed em dust anyway.

    http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/06/diesels-crush-a.html

    How long until the word diesel starts taking on the same ring as supercharged?

  • Strizzo

    June 19, 2008 4:54 a.m. Strizzo HalfDork

    well typically a diesel thats of any interest on this board is one with a turbocharger

  • Jay

    June 19, 2008 5:15 a.m. Jay HalfDork

    How close is what they put in these things to "pump" diesel? You could probably make a compression-ignition engine run on methanol or whatever but that wouldn't really be "diesel" would it?

    J

  • alfadriver

    June 19, 2008 7:00 a.m. alfadriver New Reader

    One must also consider that the rules are very much tilted toward diesels at the moment.

    IMHO, if they didn't take the top 5 places, THAT would have been news.

    Eric

  • June 19, 2008 7:07 a.m. stumpmj HalfDork

    Yeah they have bigger air restricters and a displacement allowance which are both very generous. Organizers specifically wrote the rules to make sure diesels would win. A gas motor with the same allowances would absolutely destroy the diesels.

  • matt_fulghum

    June 19, 2008 7:21 a.m. matt_fulghum New Reader

    They were running biodiesel, which is pretty much the same thing as pump diesel... a little less sulfur but pretty much the same stuff.

  • wetpossum

    June 19, 2008 9:27 a.m. wetpossum New Reader

    You can also have a compression ignition engine that's not a Diesel. The term Diesel simply has to do with the thermodynamic cycle that the engine uses to make power. One of the main economic advantages of running Diesel fuel is that it can take very high compression ratios and boost pressures. The Otto cycle is actually just a little more efficient, but most Otto cycle engines can't touch the compression ratios of Diesel engines, therefore the Diesel's are more efficient.

  • June 19, 2008 2:03 p.m. Purplehaze New Reader

    stumpmj said:Yeah they have bigger air restricters and a displacement allowance which are both very generous. Organizers specifically wrote the rules to make sure diesels would win. A gas motor with the same allowances would absolutely destroy the diesels.

    Ah. That would make sense. It also explains why diesels keep winning LeMans, but aren't doing so dramatically well elsewhere.

  • ignorant

    June 19, 2008 4:44 p.m. ignorant SuperDork

    they run a synthetic Gas to Liquid fuel with a small ammount of biomass made diesel.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/31/audi-r10-tdi-using-biofuel-for-the-first-time/

  • ProDarwin

    June 20, 2008 5:19 a.m. ProDarwin Dork

    The Otto cycle is less efficient. Diesel cycle has little to no pumping losses when compared with an Otto engine (not at WOT).

 
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