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  • Datsun1500

    June 27, 2010 4:01 p.m. Datsun1500 Dork

    I have a 25x 25 detached garage with 1 large garage door in the front, 36 inch door in the side. No windows, etc. Any ideas on cooling it enough to work in? It is hot, hot, hot in there. Cut windows and put in a window unit(s)?

    There are 2 gable vents (12x18 inches) 1 front, 1 back. Would it be worth putting fans there and blow the hot air out?

  • carguy123

    June 27, 2010 4:28 p.m. carguy123 SuperDork

    I had to live in my 35' X 50' garage whilst building my house. Used one of those roll around water coolers like you get from one of the big box stores. It was a godsend! I still use it today when I'm working in the garage.

    I haven't found a good choice of heaters tho.

  • ronbros

    June 27, 2010 4:29 p.m. ronbros Reader

    around TX way,, a common cooler are those large portable mister units, and they work better than i thought they would.

    seems they spray a fine water mist into the large fan and water starts to evaporate and it cools the air flow,so air becomes cool.

    and 100+ is a common temp here. AKA hot as hell

  • digdug18

    June 27, 2010 5:03 p.m. digdug18 HalfDork

    I'd put 4" of spray foam on all the walls and ceiling and install an in wall air conditioner. You could cool it down to 50 degrees if you leave it running all the time. And for the winter, an electric heater is great as well.

    Andrew

  • njansenv

    June 27, 2010 5:09 p.m. njansenv HalfDork

    The misting units work much better with low relative humidity. In really humid weather, they don't help as much... FWIW.

  • stuart in mn

    June 27, 2010 5:17 p.m. stuart in mn SuperDork

    It would help if we knew where you are located.

  • Datsun1500

    June 27, 2010 6:06 p.m. Datsun1500 Dork

    Baltimore, so it is usually pretty humid....

  • dean1484

    June 27, 2010 10:09 p.m. dean1484 Dork

    Paint the exterior of the roof and walls white.

  • June 27, 2010 10:25 p.m. Ian_F Reader

    Need more info... construction... ceiling height... sun exposure...

    As mentioned, wall and ceiling insulation will make a huge difference in the effectiveness of any system you decide on. Door insulation as well.

    With adequate insulation, a std window unit framed into the wall should keep that space reasonably comfortable. I know from experience, just taking an edge off the humidity helps a lot.

    If you have enough ceiling height:

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  • Junkyard_Dog

    June 27, 2010 10:32 p.m. Junkyard_Dog HalfDork

    I just moved into my 2nd house, the first with a detached garage. I have the same cooling issues. My kerosene heaters should be good for the winter. But then I had an odd thought that only an HVAC guy could answer-what about a heat pump. The unit for my last house cost $5000 installed. It was 2 levels and @1500 sq. ft. Figuring the garage is so much smaller what would the cost be for a permanent unit? Even if its $2500 if you use it for 5 years before you move how much would you save in kerosene/electricity for an overmatched window unit.

    Somebody tell me I'm crazy.

  • Woody

    June 28, 2010 7:21 a.m. Woody SuperDork

    Gable end vent fans are cheap and they make a huge difference.

  • stuart in mn

    June 28, 2010 8:09 a.m. stuart in mn SuperDork

    Datsun1500 wrote:

    Baltimore, so it is usually pretty humid....

    In that case, misters or swamp coolers won't help a lot. The thing is, ventilation and fans will at best keep the temps inside the same as outside, so if you want it cooler than that you'll have to look at air conditioning.

  • oldeskewltoy

    June 28, 2010 9:31 a.m. oldeskewltoy Reader

    solar powered attic exhaust fans....

  • Giant Purple Snorklewacker

    June 28, 2010 9:43 a.m. Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork

    A window in each side wall will do wonders. Add a pull fan to one to draw air thru if that isn't enough.

    Also, a ridge vent or ther way to allow heat trapped in the roof to escape - the gable vents should work... same principal, put a fan blowing outward on one side.

  • erohslc

    June 28, 2010 9:52 a.m. erohslc Reader

    Salvage an A/C unit from a mobile home. Only needs holes in the wall bu=ig enough for the freon lines twixt the inside and outside pieces. No inside walls = no need for ducting.

  • amg_rx7

    June 28, 2010 9:57 a.m. amg_rx7 HalfDork

    carguy123 wrote:

    I had to live in my 35' X 50' garage whilst building my house. Used one of those roll around water coolers like you get from one of the big box stores. It was a godsend! I still use it today when I'm working in the garage.

    I haven't found a good choice of heaters tho.

    Those units are great. I used one at my house. Much cheaper and easier than trying to blow a hole in the wall.

  • alex

    June 28, 2010 10:24 a.m. alex Dork

    I have the same problem with my garage. My plan is in a couple phases: (1) gable end vents, one with an exhaust fan to draw out the trapped hot air up in the rafters - as hot as it is at ground level, it's seriously 15° hotter up there; (2) insulate/drywall (and in my case, run more electric around the perimeter of the garage); (3) window a/c (I have windows, at least); (4) heater - haven't decided on this one yet, but I've got some time to figure that out.

    When questioning the effectiveness of an exhaust fan, consider this: my restaurant has all its walk-in coolers in an outbuilding, which used to be a brick garage. It would stay a constant 95°-100° in there, even before ambient temps had hit the 80s here, thanks to all the compressors and fans and motors and such constantly running. (Great for me, since I got to use it as a walk-in dough proof box, but that's neither here nor there.) The heat the cooling units generated were making the cooling units work harder to keep the coolers cool, a vicious cycle. We installed a standard attic fan in one wall on a thermostatic switch and put a gable vent in the man door, since that was easier than making a new hole in the brick wall. Within a day, that fan had brought the garage down to ambient outside temp. I was impressed.

  • nutherjrfan

    June 28, 2010 10:37 a.m. nutherjrfan Reader

    slightly off-topic. http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/258-Loudon-Ave_Baltimore_MD_21229...

    this $5k property in Baltimore has a detached 2 car garage that has me thinking long term hobby building project.

  • porksboy

    June 28, 2010 10:37 a.m. porksboy Dork

    You can get window mount heat pumps. Also look into the units like motels have. It is a heat pump that mounts to the wall and vents and drains to the out side. The motel unit is available as a residential unit maybe even used.

    The stand alone portable A/C units are rather pricy.

  • June 28, 2010 10:47 a.m. klipless Reader

    On set of push fans on one side, another set of pull fans on the other. Bonus points for adding a frame around the fans that will allow you to drop in furnace filters to turn the garage in to an instant paint booth.

  • M2Pilot

    June 28, 2010 2:15 p.m. M2Pilot Reader

    porksboy wrote:

    You can get window mount heat pumps. Also look into the units like motels have. It is a heat pump that mounts to the wall and vents and drains to the out side. The motel unit is available as a residential unit maybe even used.

    I have one of those upstairs in my garage. It works pretty well. As I recall it cost around $600. Heats as well as cools. Can provide more info if you need it.

  • subrew

    June 28, 2010 5:12 p.m. subrew Reader

    Roof vents. Either powered fans, or the whirly gig passive vents. I installed two whirly gigs on my garage roof in about two hours with basic tools. Garage temps have dropped dramatically. Inside temps are about equal to outside temps, where before it would be 90 outside, and 110 inside.

    Makes it tolerable on warmer days,

  • Rusnak_322

    June 28, 2010 5:19 p.m. Rusnak_322 Reader

    I had a garage turned into a exercise room. the walls were finished, but there was not heat, AC or insulation. I added a cheapo natural gas heater and then cut a hole int he wall and framed it like a window and put a window AC unit in there. It worked great, didn't take any time to install and didn't cost much at all. It only took 10 mins to really hear or cool the room and since it was only used 1 hour a day it was a great solution.

  • foxtrapper

    June 29, 2010 7:18 a.m. foxtrapper SuperDork

    Yea, it's been hot here this summer, hasn't it?

    Walmart has those Haus 5000 btu window ac units for under $100. One will make the shop much more comfortable, two will solidly cool it. If it were me, I'd cut the walls and put them in.

 
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