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  • stroker

    July 30, 2011 10:01 a.m. stroker HalfDork

    Help me out for second. The other day I was trying to remember as many recognized American Formula classes as I could. I'm sure I'm missing some, but here's what I got:

    F500

    FV

    Formula Ford

    Super Vee

    Formula Atlantic

    Formula Mazda

    F5000

    Formula Continental

    F1000

    Wasn't there a Skip Barber class, too?

  • Sultan

    July 30, 2011 10:14 a.m. Sultan Reader

    F1st. The updated FV.

  • aussiesmg

    July 30, 2011 11:16 a.m. aussiesmg SuperDork

    Libra

  • oldsaw

    July 30, 2011 11:24 a.m. oldsaw SuperDork

    Classes currently recognized within the SCCA:

    The eight formula classes are all single-seat, open wheel racecars. They are built to detailed specifications for weight, size and engine displacement. There are incredible power to weight ratios in each class. The classes in order of fastest to slowest are: Formula Atlantic (FA), Formula 1000 (FB), Formula SCCA (FE), Formula Continental (FC), Formula Mazda (FM), Formula Ford (FF), Formula 500 (F500) and Formula Vee (FV).

    Source: http://www.scca.com/contentpage.aspx?content=71

  • stroker

    July 30, 2011 12:43 p.m. stroker HalfDork

    oldsaw wrote:

    Classes currently recognized within the SCCA:

    The eight formula classes are all single-seat, open wheel racecars. They are built to detailed specifications for weight, size and engine displacement. There are incredible power to weight ratios in each class. The classes in order of fastest to slowest are: Formula Atlantic (FA), Formula 1000 (FB), Formula SCCA (FE), Formula Continental (FC), Formula Mazda (FM), Formula Ford (FF), Formula 500 (F500) and Formula Vee (FV).

    Source: http://www.scca.com/contentpage.aspx?content=71

    I was looking for more of a historical compilation for the last 40 years or so. Which ones of have died of diminishing popularity or obsolescence?

  • oldsaw

    July 30, 2011 2:00 p.m. oldsaw SuperDork

    In reply to stroker:

    Thanks for the clarification.

    Formula classes have evolved over many years, but one that has been missed was F Jr.

    FA evolved into F5000

    FB into FAtlantic with a 1600cc limit (originally) then with mandated Toyota and (later) Mazda engines.

    FC was limited to 1300cc engines - later defunct but some cars were updated to FA specs

    F2000 - formula ford w/2000cc engines, later renamed as FContinental

    AIS - mid-80's IndyCar (CART) chassis' were incorporated into an independent series that specified stock-block, domestic V8's

    Super Vee started with air-cooled flat fours until the wasser-coolers were phased-in (mid to late 70's)

    There are probably more, but that's all that came to mind right now............

  • July 30, 2011 2:45 p.m. intrepid New Reader

    I think oldsaw offers a good synopsis of the evolution, based on my own understanding. I would only add the formula ford has recently evolved into formula f with the advent of the Honda Fit motor as an alternative to the traditional Ford Kent.

  • SimonTibb

    July 30, 2011 3:34 p.m. SimonTibb New Reader

    US ONLY classes or just formula classes in the US? Many of those are international.

  • stroker

    July 30, 2011 5:11 p.m. stroker HalfDork

    SimonTibb wrote:

    US ONLY classes or just formula classes in the US? Many of those are international.

    I'm thinking of recognized, sanctioned classes (I guess primarily by the SCCA) but not necessarily at the National level ONLY. Formula First would be a "wildcat" class as far as I'm concerned (unless it's been recognized by the SCCA without my knowledge), but given its popularity would still be regarded as legitimate.

  • spritedriver28

    July 30, 2011 8:41 p.m. spritedriver28 New Reader

    Skip Barber had a FF series and the Barber Saab Pro series (now defunct).

  • oldsaw

    July 30, 2011 9:31 p.m. oldsaw SuperDork

    spritedriver28 wrote:

    Skip Barber had a FF series and the Barber Saab Pro series (now defunct).

    Barber also used Dodge-powered cars for a while, too.

  • July 30, 2011 11:33 p.m. ncjay Reader

    Skip Barber still operates different racing series using Formula Ford style cars. "Had" implies the series doesn't exist anymore.

  • stroker

    July 31, 2011 9:34 a.m. stroker HalfDork

    Does anyone know if the SCCA approved the 600cc motorcycle engine to F500?

  • Aug. 1, 2011 3:44 a.m. fasted58 Dork

    Bunch of Canadians would come down for the Pumpkin at Nelson Ledges every fall w/ 750cc MC formula cars, don't remember their class offhand tho. Wish SCCA woulda adopted them, pretty damn slick. We'd shoot the E36 M3 over FZs and FZRs.... 'scuse me... FZeds.

  • stroker

    Aug. 1, 2011 3:49 a.m. stroker HalfDork

    fasted58 wrote:

    Bunch of Canadians would come down for the Pumpkin at Nelson Ledges every fall w/ 750cc MC formula cars, don't remember their class offhand tho. Wish SCCA woulda adopted them, pretty damn slick. We'd shoot the E36 M3 over FZs and FZRs.... 'scuse me... FZeds.

    Sounds like the Brit F750 class. Front engine stuff, generally, sorta like Locost Lite? Some of that stuff is pretty nifty but not what I was thinking of a US Class.

  • Aug. 1, 2011 4:04 a.m. fasted58 Dork

    stroker wrote:

    fasted58 wrote:

    Bunch of Canadians would come down for the Pumpkin at Nelson Ledges every fall w/ 750cc MC formula cars, don't remember their class offhand tho. Wish SCCA woulda adopted them, pretty damn slick. We'd shoot the E36 M3 over FZs and FZRs.... 'scuse me... FZeds.

    Sounds like the Brit F750 class. Front engine stuff, generally, sorta like Locost Lite? Some of that stuff is pretty nifty but not what I was thinking of a US Class.

    Rear engine. I don't remember their sanction tho. I might have some old grid sheets from the early 90's, I'll hafta look 'em up.

  • Aug. 1, 2011 4:21 a.m. fasted58 Dork

    OK, closest thing I can find is Formula 4. XPIT chassis rings a bell. I have some old pics buried somewhere.

 
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