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maddabe
maddabe New Reader
9/12/10 5:18 p.m.

It's mostly Saturns in this class at my local bull ring.

betz1986
betz1986
11/19/14 9:51 a.m.

hey I leave over here in Montpelier IN. and the own of the Montpelier speedway is going to let me race my 1998 eclipse rs. sic his getting ready to put the rollcage in for me. the only thing u cant run in the fwd class is awd and turbo and cant not have the ebrake in it....hey zombie woof I asked about my 1987 Nissan 300zx and I was told by the own I can run it in with the street stock itnle we get some more inports on the dirt

T.J.
T.J. PowerDork
11/19/14 10:06 a.m.

There is a local guy parting a 2000 Celica GT-S. Selling off everything that is not needed to become a racecar. I've been thinking of grabbing the seats and putting them in the Mini.

I see hornet cars for sale on craigslist from time to time. I always think it would be a blast to try, but I think the closest dirt track is about an hour and a half away.

16vCorey
16vCorey PowerDork
11/19/14 10:48 a.m.

My ChumpCar teammate/captain (Sporqster here) is threatening to build an M42 E30 for Chump's new class structure and WRL, so if that happens we're going to find out what the local 4cyl circle track scene is like!

16vCorey
16vCorey PowerDork
11/19/14 10:49 a.m.

Although it's not dirt or FWD, it sort of applies here.

ScreaminE
ScreaminE HalfDork
11/19/14 2:20 p.m.

I was planning to race in a similar class until I talked to a buddy who ran open-wheel modified asked me, "Do you want to die?" He said these classes the morons have little to lose and generally beat the hell out of each other. Makes sense to me. Really changed my mind about doing so since I have a family now.

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 SuperDork
11/19/14 3:02 p.m.

The asphalt oval here in Indy has a hornet class, it has been a few years since I paid attention to it but back then it was SOHC cars only had to be 4 cyl, mini trucks were allowed. If they felt you were too good of a driver for the class they could force you into the bomber class (full size cars) at their discretion.

SOHC neons and saturns seemed to be the standard with a few cavaliers and sunfires thrown in.

I never got involved because of a horrible work schedule that would make being out at the track late on Friday a bear.

The drivers are mainly people who have never raced before and the kids of guys who race in the late models and modifieds. There is generally a "rubbin's racin" and lack of fear. Best thing I ever saw was a saturn end up on it's roof spinning like a top.

betz1986
betz1986 New Reader
11/20/14 7:28 p.m.

here in Montpelier its a d track. we run 6cyl and 4cyl in are fwd class. ppl come all over form like new York, texas, Oregon, califria

irish44j
irish44j PowerDork
11/20/14 8:05 p.m.
16vCorey wrote: Although it's not dirt or FWD, it sort of applies here.

M42 e30s do quite well in the dirt, thank you very much.....so far in three seasons, mine has never been beaten by the dozen or more 6cyl e30s that have come out to try.

Just spinning triangles.

We had a rallycross at a dirt circle track last year where we used about half the banked oval. I didn't find the banked section particularly fun, but then again they had offset gates on it so you couldn't just hang the tail out all the way around

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 SuperDork
11/20/14 8:15 p.m.

In reply to betz1986:

I took a look at the rules and 4 and 6 cylinders are allowed now. I found a few videos someone took and it seems like civics are in there a lot.

betz1986
betz1986 New Reader
11/21/14 10:40 a.m.

there a lot of ford probe gt up here that are running 4g64 and 4g63 motors I just start building my 4g63 for my eclipse

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
11/21/14 1:25 p.m.

Sadly, no FWD here, but there's a guy locally who kills it in a 3rd gen. Celica. In Texas, Wayne used to regularly whip up on 4 cyl Mustangs and Pintos in a 1st gen crx.

Trackmouse
Trackmouse New Reader
11/21/14 3:43 p.m.
White_and_Nerdy wrote:
dankspeed wrote: Some cars i thought would be good racers are Escort gt, 92 + prelude, accord, contour svt 4cyl ?, neon, escort zx2, sentra ser
Oooo, an SE-R on a dirt track with its VLSD would rule, all the while not looking a bit like anything more than a base model Sentra.... At least, until the track figured out what an overdog the car would be and then ban it.

The trick is to not win by so much

betz1986
betz1986 New Reader
11/21/14 6:37 p.m.

over as long as u don't 3 win race in a round ur good

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic PowerDork
11/21/14 11:33 p.m.
Trackmouse wrote:
White_and_Nerdy wrote:
dankspeed wrote: Some cars i thought would be good racers are Escort gt, 92 + prelude, accord, contour svt 4cyl ?, neon, escort zx2, sentra ser
Oooo, an SE-R on a dirt track with its VLSD would rule, all the while not looking a bit like anything more than a base model Sentra.... At least, until the track figured out what an overdog the car would be and then ban it.
The trick is to not win by so much

That would be boring as hell though, have you ever seen one of these races? They're great fun to watch, on a paved short track there's as much exhaust smoke as there is tire smoke(and quite a bit of both), very close racing.

ScreaminE wrote: I was planning to race in a similar class until I talked to a buddy who ran open-wheel modified asked me, "Do you want to die?" He said these classes the morons have little to lose and generally beat the hell out of each other. Makes sense to me. Really changed my mind about doing so since I have a family now.

In the car or in the pits? You aren't really going fast enough on a 1/4 mile oval to get hurt in a properly caged car(probably more likely to die towing the car to the track). The white trash concentration however, can be high.

betz1986
betz1986 New Reader
11/22/14 10:02 a.m.

Kenny_mccormic have u ever been to Montpelier speedway bc this 1/4 track we can get to high 90 low 100 in all class sic its not in oval its what everyone calls a d track its more how Indianapolis speedway is for the one that don't now what a d track is

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
11/22/14 10:27 a.m.

Indianapolis is a rectangle. Many 1.5 mile tracks are D shaped.

betz1986
betz1986 New Reader
11/22/14 10:45 a.m.

Montpelier track is the same shape as Indianapolis. but its a 1/4 dirt and its its a d they way we hit high speed paired to other dirt tracks.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic PowerDork
11/22/14 11:21 a.m.

In reply to betz1986:

The sort of class I'm thinking of are caged Cavaliers on true street tires, those cars barely do 100mph, I find it hard to believe they maintain it on a 1/4 mile dirt rectangle.

Zomby Woof
Zomby Woof PowerDork
11/22/14 11:25 a.m.

Not a chance they'll hit 100 MPH on a track like that.

betz1986
betz1986 New Reader
11/22/14 12:02 p.m.

I did say in the fwd class ethere in the street class we've had them clock at 105mph by are local pd

betz1986
betz1986 New Reader
11/22/14 12:19 p.m.

how about u there have a car or u can get ur soelf car come up and prove me wrong!!!!

drdisque
drdisque
11/25/14 3:59 p.m.

Keep in mind that a lot of these classes have a $1500 claimer rule or something to that effect, so your ideas to get some obscure overdog have already been accounted for.

The races aren't really races, more demolition derbies where everyone is (usually) going the same direction.

That being said, 1st gen neon is the car to have. Strongest power, light, balanced, relatively wide and low, easy to find and build under the claimer rule $.

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