Dynamat vs. Lizard Skin
anyone use either one? comments?
I need to take old an old carpet, uncomfortable seats, and insulate the floor before putting in different seats.
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Sept. 3, 2011 10:19 a.m. TIGMOTORSPORTS Reader
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Sept. 3, 2011 11:22 a.m. tuna55 SuperDork
I don't have one, but if you decide to use something like lizard skin, be aware that some smarty pants over on a few other forums have looked at the MSDS for the stuff and decided that it was hobby shop microballoons epoxy paint and some have cooked up that exact recipe, although I don't remember any hard data to see how it compared.
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Sept. 3, 2011 11:38 a.m. Stealthtercel HalfDork
As a guy with new (well, different) seats ready to go into a buzzbox Tercel, I am interested in this thread.
There's another liquid-based Magic Goop out there too (besides Lizard Skin), but the name escapes me. Input on that one would be welcome too. (Heck, so would the name.)
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Sept. 3, 2011 6:05 p.m. curtis73 Dork
There is one called "car quiet" I think.
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Sept. 3, 2011 8:43 p.m. NOHOME HalfDork
Dynamat is a bit of a scam in my opinion. If you notice, Dynamat is expected to stop heat. The problem is that the only heat stopping component is the shiny foil. And it is INSIDE the car. It is not going to do a thing. As a matter of fact, since it is aluminum, it will actually conduct heat out of the tar underlay and feed it into the car.
Now, if you were to cover the outside of the passenger compartment, it might do something to stop radiant heat.
The only way to answer your question is to get a tile of steel 1'x1' and coat it with the contenders. Put the two 1/2" over a hot plate and measure with a laser thermometer for about half an hour.
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Sept. 3, 2011 9:05 p.m. M2Pilot Reader
If you're considering dynamat, you might want to check out Rammat. I've used it & been pleased.
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Sept. 3, 2011 9:22 p.m. stuart in mn SuperDork
I don't have any data on the heat rejection qualities, but Dynamat does do a good job of quieting the car. I put it in the doors of my M535i last year and it made a noticeable difference in road noise.
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Sept. 3, 2011 10:08 p.m. bksmith76
a lot of people have been using an aluminum peel and stick roofing product from Lowes - http://www.lowes.com/pd_154017-81326-PS625_0__?storeId=10151&Ntt=peel+roofing&...
i'm actually planning on doing my Cooper S this weekend.
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Sept. 3, 2011 10:58 p.m. Stealthtercel HalfDork
With strips six inches wide, it sounds as though even a Cooper will take a fair amount of time. I have to say the spray-gun products are looking better and better. Any user experience with those out there in GRM land?
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Sept. 3, 2011 11:00 p.m. mad_machine SuperDork
have to look into that for the saab
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Sept. 3, 2011 11:08 p.m. porksboy SuperDork
I am going to put the peel and seal in the CRX when I replace the seats. I just gotta find the seats. I like these http://www.racingseats.com/#4 in black. Wish I could get tan vinyl for the Spitfire too.
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Sept. 4, 2011 1:01 a.m. curtis73 Dork
M2Pilot wrote:
If you're considering dynamat, you might want to check out Rammat. I've used it & been pleased.
+1 for the Rammat. Its the same exact thing as Dynamat but less than half the price.
Having said that, I haven't found that those types of sound deadening methods really seem to do what they promise. I've used Rammat and Dynamat in complete installations and was disappointed with both equally.
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Sept. 4, 2011 12:54 p.m. DuctTape&Bondo Reader
+1 on Raamat, used it on my IS300 and was pleased. Fellow who runs it offers great service.
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Sept. 4, 2011 1:12 p.m. coll9947 Reader
I've applied many hundreds of square feet of Dynamat. If you get it on eBay it's more than 50% less than retail price. I think it works great, I even apply it to my computer cases. Surface prep and coverage is key. In my 2000 Civic sedan I covered every panel, trunk floor, trunk lid, roof, floor, all the doors (even the inside of the outer skin), etc, and it was an amazing transformation.
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Sept. 4, 2011 7:11 p.m. Hal Dork
bksmith76 wrote:
a lot of people have been using an aluminum peel and stick roofing product from Lowes - http://www.lowes.com/pd_154017-81326-PS625_0__?storeId=10151&Ntt=peel+roofing&...
i'm actually planning on doing my Cooper S this weekend.
I got some of that to do the walls of my van. Left it lay in the van till I had time to do it. After the second day the smell from the asphalt was so bad I took it back and got my money back.
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Sept. 5, 2011 2:36 p.m. bksmith76 New Reader
In reply to Hal:
That's strange - i haven't had any smell yet, but it's was installed right away. Mine also came in a shrink wrapped so i'm guessing Hal's was opened allowing the full area of the backing to off-gas?
I'm happy so far - it's been 48 hours in and no smell. I'm only putting in the bare minimum to cover the larger areas to cut road noise because i don't want to add a ton of weight (but it still is my daily driver so gotta stay comfortable ;).
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Sept. 5, 2011 8:14 p.m. amg_rx7 HalfDork
My preference is Second Skin Audio
http://www.secondskinaudio.com/
Good thread from my RX7's peeps: http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=151598
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Sept. 5, 2011 9:34 p.m. calteg Reader
bksmith76 wrote:
a lot of people have been using an aluminum peel and stick roofing product from Lowes - http://www.lowes.com/pd_154017-81326-PS625_0__?storeId=10151&Ntt=peel+roofing&...
i'm actually planning on doing my Cooper S this weekend.
Came in to post this. Put some in the Fit to quiet the road noise. Made a tiny difference, but I only paid a tiny price. I had a faint smell that dissipated within 24 hours
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Sept. 5, 2011 9:40 p.m. DaveEstey HalfDork
I used some paintable stuff from Elemental Designs called Edead V3. Worked VERY well and was easy to apply. I think I got a dented gallon can of it for $30.
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Sept. 10, 2011 4:51 a.m. digdug18 Dork
amg_rx7 wrote:
My preference is Second Skin Audio
http://www.secondskinaudio.com/
Good thread from my RX7's peeps: http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=151598
Second skin is by far the best material, if your looking for a quiet interior. You can get by using other materials, but your going to use more layers and not get the same silence inside the car.
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Sept. 10, 2011 7:16 a.m. akamcfly Reader
Earplugs?
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Sept. 10, 2011 12:07 p.m. Hal Dork
bksmith76 wrote:
In reply to Hal:
That's strange - i haven't had any smell yet, but it's was installed right away. Mine also came in a shrink wrapped so i'm guessing Hal's was opened allowing the full area of the backing to off-gas?
Don't remember if the roll was wrapped up or not. I just tossed it in the back of the van for a few days till I had time to install it. After two days the asphalt smell was terrible.
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Sept. 15, 2011 6:42 p.m. TIGMOTORSPORTS Reader
I may say the heck with it - go off road butch style and use roll in bedliner for the floor
