Ottawa
Ottawa New Reader
8/2/10 8:13 a.m.

Hunting on eBay and came across this

1980 80 Fiat BERTONE X19 X1/9 5-Speed Calif Car NO RUST

Yes it needs brakes and a few more things, but this could be the basis for anything from a resto, a challenge car or an engine swap.

No bidders at the time of this posting, so one of you had better pick this up if it stays this low!

Ottawa

Kia_racer
Kia_racer HalfDork
8/2/10 8:22 a.m.

I am glad that is too car away.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 Reader
8/2/10 8:53 a.m.

"may not be perfect." LOL.

Stealthtercel
Stealthtercel Reader
8/2/10 9:57 a.m.

Anybody else notice all the police packages in the background? Even the white Fox Mustang in the first picture seems to have police-type steelies. And there's an old Chev and an old Diplomat, and a 70s Coronet in the back....

Fun seller!

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
8/2/10 10:15 a.m.

I do want one someday.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
8/2/10 10:15 a.m.

and still no bids

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
8/2/10 2:22 p.m.

all I can say, having owned one of those cars.. I hope you have small hands and are a contortionist..

they are fun though

psteav
psteav Reader
8/2/10 3:29 p.m.

has no brakes = probable master cylinder = great pain.

But still, $600 for a rust-free classic sports car ain't bad.

mattmacklind
mattmacklind SuperDork
8/2/10 4:07 p.m.

I want one of those someday as well.

racerdave600
racerdave600 HalfDork
8/2/10 5:16 p.m.

I've had maybe a dozen or so X's, and given the condition, it's really a good buy. It says it's a 1980, but either it has had an engine swap or it is an '81 given the fuel injection. The injected cars are soooo much better running in stock form. Yeah, I'm glad I'm no where near it either, or should I say my wife is probably glad!

But yeah, master cylinders are a total PITA, but they are loads of fun to drive.

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
8/2/10 6:26 p.m.

for those that do not know.. the master cylinder is bolted to the steering column.. with long bolts that also hold the clutch master cylinder to the OTHER side of the steering column... it was the main thing I was thinking of when I mentioned being a contortionist.. I have to wonder what bertone was thinking when they did that

wlkelley3
wlkelley3 HalfDork
8/2/10 7:56 p.m.

Don't like the wires hanging under the dash, not that it's a deal breaker. Just concerns me what someone has done under there and I hate sorting other peoples mess out. Don't remember the bumpers like that though, especially the front. And I grew up in Cali, although I was out of the country when that one was new and didn't come back till a year after.

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
8/2/10 8:49 p.m.

My last '81 Exxie had those same bumpers and that goofy shaped shift knob so it looks about right for the year.

The real crazy wiring on those is in a panel behind the glovebox on the passenger side. There's two big quarter turn fasteners that hold it, you drop it down and .

Swapping the master cylinder isn't hard as long as you use air tools (that way you don't spend too much time standing on your head).

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
8/3/10 8:02 a.m.

I will say this for an X.. the packaging in that car is just neat. Who but the italians would have put the gas tank behind the driver and the spare tyre behind the passenger?

The germans would have put it up front

edit: just looked at the ebay ad. There is a box of brake pads in the front trunk. They also mention the car having no hand brake. Fiat put the handbrake mechanism INTO the calipers.. so if it has no brakes and no handbrake, that points to the rear calipers being the problem

racerdave600
racerdave600 HalfDork
8/3/10 8:03 a.m.

Not sure of the reasoning behind the master cylinder placement except that it is efficient and direct. I think i've replaced about 6 or 8 through the years. The real problem with replacing it is not bolting it in, but lining up the brake lines so that they will thread into the housing. Unfortunately air tools are not a big help there. It does help to remove the seat to do this, but nothing short of cutting the car apart will truly make it easy! I always thread the lines and then bolt it in place, but even this way it is difficult.

Most of mine were done using Fiat parts, but I've heard some of the newer replacement pieces are pretty crappy. That's not a place to use a cheap part.

Ottawa
Ottawa New Reader
8/4/10 11:28 a.m.

Come on, no takers at all?

Or are there snipers lying in wait?

spitfirebill
spitfirebill Dork
8/4/10 11:37 a.m.

I'm just glad its in Concord, CA and not Concord NC.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim Dork
8/4/10 11:43 a.m.

I'd be very tempted but I need a 4WD car for winter first before a(nother) sports car is on the agenda.

Even though I do have a search set up for cheap X1/9s and MR2s for track purposes...

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
8/4/10 11:50 a.m.

I might pick up an X in a couple of years once i get some work done to my 124. I like the looks of the X with it's bumpers removed and smoothed.. expecially with some flares on the wheel wells

m4ff3w
m4ff3w SuperDork
8/4/10 1:49 p.m.

I miss my X :(

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim Dork
8/4/10 3:24 p.m.

In reply to mad_machine:

I really do like the looks of the (European) 1300 bumpers - first X1/9 I had had those. Did the earlier US ones come with those bumpers as well?

Fletch1
Fletch1 Reader
8/4/10 3:39 p.m.

That's an odd looking shift knob. There was one for sale on my way to work back in the spring. The guy put it back in his backyard and I noticed it there this morning....with weeds growing back around it.

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
8/4/10 4:01 p.m.

I think the VERY first year in the states had the small euro bumpers...

the rarest bumpers were chromed Euro bumpers.. I think only one special model called the "Lido" had them

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim Dork
8/4/10 4:12 p.m.

Bah, that's a pity. Mind you, if it's a track rat you can remove the bumpers anyway and add some lightness that way.

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