So..., do I spring for these cheap Towel City Retreads ice racing tires and hope they'll work in the Florida sand, or do I buy some real rally tires at more than double the price?
http://www.towelcityracingtires.com/15__Ice_Racing_Tires.html
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Dec. 21, 2011 10:43 a.m. Aeromoto Reader
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Dec. 21, 2011 10:48 a.m. 93EXCivic SuperDork
I thought a lot of people use winter tires on their rallyx cars.
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Dec. 21, 2011 10:49 a.m. 914Driver SuperDork
$72 for retreads? Maybe the technology has changed over the years, but here where it snows people tend to stay away from them.
Why not CL search some pre-loved very knobby snow tires? $20 or each, then GRM hand off them to Florida.
Dan
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Dec. 21, 2011 10:55 a.m. Aeromoto Reader
93EXCivic wrote:
I thought a lot of people use winter tires on their rallyx cars.
I would LOVE to score some used winter tires, but you'd have better luck finding Jimmy Hoffa here in Florida.
It's just tough trying to justify spending $800-$1000 for tires to go on a $500 car.
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Dec. 21, 2011 10:56 a.m. 914Driver SuperDork
Not exactly what I was looking for, these with the little slits on the knobs are more for ice, may clog up in mud. Someone's gotta be headed south soon.
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Dec. 21, 2011 10:58 a.m. 93EXCivic SuperDork
I could of sworn there were new winter tires on tire rack for cheaper the $72 a pop.
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Dec. 21, 2011 11:15 a.m. Zomby woof SuperDork
914Driver wrote:
$72 for retreads? Maybe the technology has changed over the years, but here where it snows people tend to stay away from them.
Dan
They're special rubber compounds on normal street tire casings. Basically cheater race rubber. The ice tires are probably so soft that they wouldn't stand up to the sand. I destroyed a set of Blizzaks in a day on my rally crosser.
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Dec. 21, 2011 12:22 p.m. DaveEstey Dork
Those don't look like very good ice racing tires. No siping.
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Dec. 21, 2011 1:43 p.m. junkbuggie Reader
They're special rubber compounds on normal street tire casings. Basically cheater race rubber. The ice tires are probably so soft that they wouldn't stand up to the sand. I destroyed a set of Blizzaks in a day on my rally crosser.
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Dec. 21, 2011 2:11 p.m. Aeromoto Reader
One of the guys from rallyflorida.org has suggested these--- Tire rack wants $82 for my size
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Firestone&tireModel=Winterforce
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Dec. 21, 2011 2:45 p.m. Jeff Dork
The Winterforce was the hot rallyx tire back in CO. One of the guys said he was faster on those than his rally tires (he'd run them back to back).
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Dec. 21, 2011 2:51 p.m. Maroon92 SuperDork
I have a set of good Falken rally tires I would sell. Narrow 15 inchers mounted on 5X114.3 steels.
250 plus shipping if interested!
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Dec. 21, 2011 4:05 p.m. irish44j Dork
here's a good resource talking about rallycross tires (particularly snow tires used for it)
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Dec. 21, 2011 9:18 p.m. NGTD Dork
Snows work well, but they often de-bead. You need to run big pressures in them to keep the sidewalls stiff.
Rally tires rarely do that but they are heavy and can slow you down.
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Dec. 21, 2011 11:43 p.m. Zomby woof SuperDork
I run tubes. Works fine.
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Dec. 22, 2011 5:46 a.m. Maroon92 SuperDork
NGTD wrote:
Rally tires rarely do that but they are heavy and can slow you down.
Boris the Blade said:
Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable.
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Dec. 22, 2011 8:44 a.m. singleslammer New Reader
I just got a set of these from tires-easy.com
http://www.tiresandco.ca/car-tires/SUNNY/SN,3830,SNOWMASTER/
They are ok so far, no snow yet, but they were really cheap!
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Dec. 22, 2011 9:56 a.m. Aeromoto Reader
This past season I ran BFG touring T/As, and I guess they are ok, because I won the SCCA Fl region stock rear points with them. The car turns pretty good, but I'm hoping for more forward bite out of the corners.
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Dec. 22, 2011 10:21 a.m. Xceler8x SuperDork
Truck tires?
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Dec. 22, 2011 2:27 p.m. NGTD Dork
I agree
I run a set of Yoko Rally tires and in 2010, I finished 2nd at the season-ending event and two guys in from of me went out with DNF's due to snows blowing out on course and they couldn't limp the cars through.
Maroon92 wrote:
NGTD wrote:
Rally tires rarely do that but they are heavy and can slow you down.
Boris the Blade said:
Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable.
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Dec. 23, 2011 9:53 a.m. iceracer SuperDork
We experimented with the Towel City tires in our unstudded ice racing class. They worked very well, comparable to the Blizzak.
They durometer the same, about 45. Which is pretty soft for high temps and sand. The Winterforce would be better. -
Dec. 23, 2011 11:11 a.m. Aeromoto Reader
iceracer wrote:
We experimented with the Towel City tires in our unstudded ice racing class. They worked very well, comparable to the Blizzak.
They durometer the same, about 45. Which is pretty soft for high temps and sand. The Winterforce would be better.Thanks for the input, iceracer.
I called the guys at Towel City, and they seemed clueless to what rallycross even was. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the rallyx market would be larger than the ice racing market, so you'd think they'd offer them in a hard compound?
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Dec. 23, 2011 12:30 p.m. Zomby woof SuperDork
Aeromoto wrote:
I called the guys at Towel City, and they seemed clueless to what rallycross even was. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the rallyx market would be larger than the ice racing market
I doubt it.
