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  • Jeff

    March 7, 2011 7:06 a.m. Jeff Dork

    The infamous JVL built Morten Vodge Dolt is for sale.

    http://www.specialstage.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/2210/cat/13

    It needs an engine, one piston is holed according to the owner.

    What would be the simplest engine to get a hold of and swap in there? I'm looking for easy to find and easy to bolt in. Honestly, this is most likely a bench exercise, I've been way to busy lately. OTOH........

    Jeff

  • Woody

    March 7, 2011 7:08 a.m. Woody SuperDork

    Rotary? That would take of that holed piston issue.

  • bravenrace

    March 7, 2011 7:31 a.m. bravenrace SuperDork

    I learned to drive in a '74 Dodge Colt. I'd love to have another one, but I'm not sure why.

  • jrw1621

    March 7, 2011 7:40 a.m. jrw1621 SuperDork

    Full Evo drivetrain

  • tuna55

    March 7, 2011 8:02 a.m. tuna55 Dork

    Jeff wrote:

    The infamous JVL built Morten Vodge Dolt is for sale.

    http://www.specialstage.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/2210/cat/13

    It needs an engine, one piston is holed according to the owner.

    What would be the simplest

    jrw1621 wrote:

    Full Evo drivetrain

    engine to get a hold of and swap in there? I'm looking for easy to find and easy to bolt in.

    Woody wrote:

    Rotary? That would take of that holed piston issue.

    Honestly, this is most likely a bench exercise, I've been way to busy lately. OTOH........

    Jeff

    Do you guys even read the OP? Bolt in and easy.

    Honestly, I'd get another 4G54B - I've never been a fan of destroking anyway, so just throw a stock one with some better parts and it would exactly bolt in to everything, even his cool cam and new ecm.

  • ArthurDent

    March 7, 2011 8:16 a.m. ArthurDent Reader

    Its in Canada I see - a Hyundai Pony 1.6L bolts right in - same motor as stock. Only 70hp or so though.

  • Appleseed

    March 7, 2011 8:20 a.m. Appleseed SuperDork

    SRT 2.4 dood!

  • Jay

    March 7, 2011 9:02 a.m. Jay SuperDork

    ArthurDent wrote:

    Its in Canada I see - a Hyundai Pony 1.6L bolts right in - same motor as stock. Only 70hp or so though.

    I imagine it would be a bazillion times easier to find a Dodge Raider or a D50 to give up its G54b than a still-functional Pony.

  • SlickDizzy

    March 7, 2011 9:10 a.m. SlickDizzy SuperDork

    Wouldn't a Starion engine or 4G63 bolt in with minor mods? I may be wrong, I'm not too familiar with the Diamond Star stuff.

  • bravenrace

    March 7, 2011 9:27 a.m. bravenrace SuperDork

    Go old school - 340!! Or go new - S2000 engine.

  • Moparman

    March 7, 2011 9:47 a.m. Moparman HalfDork

    Aluminum Hemi?

  • ArthurDent

    March 7, 2011 10:29 a.m. ArthurDent Reader

    Jay wrote:

    ArthurDent wrote:

    Its in Canada I see - a Hyundai Pony 1.6L bolts right in - same motor as stock. Only 70hp or so though.

    I imagine it would be a bazillion times easier to find a Dodge Raider or a D50 to give up its G54b than a still-functional Pony.

    There is a still a few kicking around Alberta and BC. They are quite robust mechanically but very rust prone. I wouldn't have suggested it except he asked for bolt in and its the same as the Colt motor - Mitsubishi 4G32 engine.

    Mitsubishi 4G32 engine

  • March 7, 2011 11:19 a.m. NGTD HalfDork

    I have seen it posted on a number of other forums that windshields for these cars are unobtanium.

  • Ignorant

    March 7, 2011 11:38 a.m. Ignorant SuperDork

    rebuild the current motor, its been succesful this long or a 4g32

  • John Brown

    March 7, 2011 12:01 p.m. John Brown SuperDork

    I am puitting together a 2003 PT Cruiser 2.4L with 1999 Neon DOHC cams, a Wrangler/Liberty exhaust manifold, 2004 Stratus intake manifold (over cam cover like 2.3L Ford), a Wrangler/Liberty bellhousing Supra transmission. It is my intention to run everything with the factory Neon computer with the injector swap and a modified wire harness. I will use an aftermarket catalytic converter and a 2.25" exhaust to a y pipe and dual mufflers.

    I am hoping to get the similar performance of the original engine (150hp) with the mileage of a swapped Neon because the weights are very similar and the final drive is similar.

  • March 7, 2011 12:28 p.m. petegossett SuperDork

    I still have the spare 2.4(?) that came with my Colt. I was told it was a built engine, but had low compression in one cylinder. It's still in the same place I put it when I bought, and then sold, mine.

    Located in 60963, make me an offer if you're interested.

    FWIW, I always wanted to do a 4G63t.

  • 1988RedT2

    March 7, 2011 12:38 p.m. 1988RedT2 Dork

    Mazda 13BT with a T04. And yes, I read the OP.

  • Nitroracer

    March 7, 2011 5:56 p.m. Nitroracer SuperDork

    John Brown wrote:

    I am puitting together a 2003 PT Cruiser 2.4L with 1999 Neon DOHC cams, a Wrangler/Liberty exhaust manifold, 2004 Stratus intake manifold (over cam cover like 2.3L Ford), a Wrangler/Liberty bellhousing Supra transmission. It is my intention to run everything with the factory Neon computer with the injector swap and a modified wire harness. I will use an aftermarket catalytic converter and a 2.25" exhaust to a y pipe and dual mufflers.

    I am hoping to get the similar performance of the original engine (150hp) with the mileage of a swapped Neon because the weights are very similar and the final drive is similar.

    I like the parts bin engineering with this one. A lot of different vehicles combined for one good end result.

  • Jay

    March 7, 2011 6:42 p.m. Jay SuperDork

    SlickDizzy wrote:

    Wouldn't a Starion engine or 4G63 bolt in with minor mods? I may be wrong, I'm not too familiar with the Diamond Star stuff.

    A Starion mill is essentially the same as what's in there. A 4G63 would work, but you can't use a transverse one because the bellhousing is different. You need the bottom end from one specific year of Dodge D50/Mighty Max (I think it was '88?) and then you can plunk the head from a Talon or whatever on. I think you could do some mix-and-matching of internals to get the forged crank from the DSM and whatever compression ratio you want. It all bolts together but it's not an easy, single-donor swap. Would be the same procedure as putting one into a Starion, it's been done & the info is out on the web.

  • John Brown

    March 7, 2011 6:53 p.m. John Brown SuperDork

    Nitroracer wrote:

    John Brown wrote:

    I am puitting together a 2003 PT Cruiser 2.4L with 1999 Neon DOHC cams, a Wrangler/Liberty exhaust manifold, 2004 Stratus intake manifold (over cam cover like 2.3L Ford), a Wrangler/Liberty bellhousing Supra transmission. It is my intention to run everything with the factory Neon computer with the injector swap and a modified wire harness. I will use an aftermarket catalytic converter and a 2.25" exhaust to a y pipe and dual mufflers.

    I am hoping to get the similar performance of the original engine (150hp) with the mileage of a swapped Neon because the weights are very similar and the final drive is similar.

    I like the parts bin engineering with this one. A lot of different vehicles combined for one good end result.

    BTW it puts the exhaust out the correct way for Jeffs MOPAR and my non MOPAR project...

  • Zomby woof

    March 7, 2011 7:06 p.m. Zomby woof Dork

    Those Pony motors are the same (1.6) motor that car originally came with, and they're stout as hell. I've built my share of them, and just scrapped a few complete ones.

    I'd go 2.6

  • Leach

    March 8, 2011 6:08 a.m. Leach SuperDork

    Moparman wrote:

    Aluminum Hemi?

  • bravenrace

    March 8, 2011 7:17 a.m. bravenrace SuperDork

    In reply to Zomby woof:

    Not doubting you, but I blew mine with only 37k miles on it.

  • MadScientistMatt

    March 8, 2011 9:22 a.m. MadScientistMatt Dork

    As this one has had a 4G54 swap, I'd probably pull another 4G54 out of a pickup (this was also used in Mazda B2600s besides the Dodge / Mitsu trucks) or Starion.

 
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