Raze
Raze SuperDork
2/16/12 11:51 a.m.

Besides these:

http://www.build-threads.com/tag/mr/,

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1266033,

http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/730443-newbie-ls1-but-not-your-typical-car.html, are there any more build threads outlining taking a FWD car and converting it to MR.

The reason I as is there are several cars which I think would be incredible for this. Think of all the cars people steal FWD drive-trains from to slap into a cheap MR chassis like the Fierro, MR2/S. Instead of swapping them specifically into these chassis what if people simply moved the setup back in the same car. The ones I'm seeing are mostly Hondas. What about a MR Cadillac Eldorado (think 90s), Ford Probe Turbo?, Hell an XR4Ti would be a good candidate given the hatch and how much rear space there is. These are the things I'm thinking of.

Another consideration would be conversion from FWD to FR on a newer car...

Please feed my need...

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
2/16/12 12:05 p.m.

For a long time I kept a '89 Civic si parts car around, thinking some day I'd take a portion of the front clip, with the drivetrain, and graft it into the rear, making a mid-engined Civic. Sadly, I never got around to it. I did build a mid engined model A truck once.

Javelin
Javelin SuperDork
2/16/12 12:14 p.m.

This thread and the Del Sol thread need to meet with an ITR drivetrain...

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
2/16/12 12:20 p.m.

In reply to Javelin:

It made me notice that I am not currently building anything epic. I will have to step up my game after this racing season... maybe build something completely bonkers to race for '13/'14.

ansonivan
ansonivan Dork
2/16/12 12:33 p.m.

I'm sure it's been mentioned before but this mkII golf is one of the nicest mid engined conversions I've seen: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3277830-Golf-mk2-16vT-Mid-Engine-RWD-Race-car-build

Raze
Raze SuperDork
2/16/12 12:35 p.m.

In reply to ansonivan:

Hadn't seen that one, thanks! Keep em coming...

Sky_Render
Sky_Render Reader
2/16/12 12:36 p.m.

Sport Compact Car featured an Integra that had been converted to MR. The conversion was done by an engineer, who had calculations for just about everything he was doing. The car handled amazing, but was somewhat under-powered. I believe that was remedied through forced-induction.

Woody
Woody SuperDork
2/16/12 1:11 p.m.
bravenrace wrote: For a long time I kept a '89 Civic si parts car around, thinking some day I'd take a portion of the front clip, with the drivetrain, and graft it into the rear, making a mid-engined Civic. Sadly, I never got around to it. I did build a mid engined model A truck once.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...back up. How about some more details and a bunch of photos?

Conquest351
Conquest351 Dork
2/16/12 1:36 p.m.

I always wanted to get a Chevy Sprint Turbo or even a Geo Metro and put the engine in the back. LOL Think it'd be a fun car to tool around in. Hell, a Mitsu Mirage with a 4G63 in the back would be super fun!!! There was a guy local who had one with the 4G63 up front with a big turbo and it just friggin hauled ass!!

ronholm
ronholm Reader
2/16/12 1:36 p.m.

Ok

This is mine.

http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?56821-Mid-Engine-Charger...

It is an 85 Shelby Charger.. Converted/ing to MR using a Daytona subframe with a Chrysler/Maserati 16v powerplant. All of this with a challenge budget in mind.

Currently mine has stalled a bit due to work stuff going really well.. and a set of twins (now 2 years old).

The Midlana comes to mind for inspiration and ideas..

http://www.midlana.com/

This one was at a GRM challenge I think..

http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f123/mr2donalson/lemans/

ideas in this thread

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/mid-or-twin-engined-challenge-cars/17359/page1/

And yet more ideas here

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/2011-n600-west-coast-challenger/33452/page1/

Or?

http://forums.clublupo.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26666

Shall I continue?

I don't know much.. But I have been studying this one for a while.. In fact.. My car is probably suffering right now from a 'Paralysis of Analysis'

Oh.. and out of everything posted.. That integra is the 'best' of the bunch IMO opinion by far... Lack of power is by far the easiest thing to 'fix' as far as these types of projects go.. I hate hondas in general.. just because.. but I LOVE that car/build... It is very well thought out and carefully and thoughtfully built.. Love it..

Although.. that mid engine golf above... somehow I missed that one to date.. Liking that a alot...

ronholm
ronholm Reader
2/16/12 1:42 p.m.
Another consideration would be conversion from FWD to FR on a newer car...

Oh and this one is a FR conversion.. pretty much daily driven..

Sorry about the link (website is well.. what it is.. silly TD )

http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f11/f68/130944-few-pics-my-rwd-conversion-parts.html

pilotbraden
pilotbraden Dork
2/16/12 1:48 p.m.

Mosler Twinstar Eldorado. Originally to be mid engine, they decided to leave the front drivetrain installed

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/mosler-twinstar-eldorado-specialty-file

Conquest351
Conquest351 Dork
2/16/12 1:56 p.m.
ronholm wrote: Ok This is mine. http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?56821-Mid-Engine-Charger... It is an 85 Shelby Charger.. Converted/ing to MR using a Daytona subframe with a Chrysler/Maserati 16v powerplant. All of this with a challenge budget in mind. Currently mine has stalled a bit due to work stuff going really well.. and a set of twins (now 2 years old). The Midlana comes to mind for inspiration and ideas.. http://www.midlana.com/ This one was at a GRM challenge I think.. http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f123/mr2donalson/lemans/ ideas in this thread http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/mid-or-twin-engined-challenge-cars/17359/page1/ And yet more ideas here http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/2011-n600-west-coast-challenger/33452/page1/ Or? http://forums.clublupo.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26666 Shall I continue? I don't know much.. But I have been studying this one for a while.. In fact.. My car is probably suffering right now from a 'Paralysis of Analysis' Oh.. and out of everything posted.. That integra is the 'best' of the bunch IMO opinion by far... Lack of power is by far the easiest thing to 'fix' as far as these types of projects go.. I hate hondas in general.. just because.. but I LOVE that car/build... It is very well thought out and carefully and thoughtfully built.. Love it.. Although.. that mid engine golf above... somehow I missed that one to date.. Liking that a alot...

I was wondering about your car. I remember the thread about grafting on the flares with scoops.

ronholm
ronholm Reader
2/16/12 1:58 p.m.

My car is on my lift... Just need to get a couple things in the shop out of the way and a bit of deferred daily driver maintenance things done.. Then I am going to get that thing going.. I have been stockpiling parts and ideas.. and I am so ready to to get it going..

BBsGarage
BBsGarage HalfDork
2/16/12 2:03 p.m.

I always thought a neon would make a good candidate for a RWD conversion.

Maybe someday

Grudge
Grudge New Reader
2/16/12 2:31 p.m.

ronholm covered it but...Here's Nashco's car that I helped with:

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/2011-n600-west-coast-challenger/33452/page1/

jstein77
jstein77 Dork
2/16/12 2:36 p.m.
pilotbraden wrote: Mosler Twinstar Eldorado. Originally to be mid engine, they decided to leave the front drivetrain installed http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/mosler-twinstar-eldorado-specialty-file

That was the one JG called the Deathstar.

mndsm
mndsm SuperDork
2/16/12 2:39 p.m.

I clearly should not mention the fact that I'm considering a wild left turn from my original challenge car. I know where I can get a Festiva shell for the price of a plate of wings, And I already have an f2t....... thank god I have no room or skill for fabrication.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
2/16/12 2:46 p.m.
jstein77 wrote:
pilotbraden wrote: Mosler Twinstar Eldorado. Originally to be mid engine, they decided to leave the front drivetrain installed http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/mosler-twinstar-eldorado-specialty-file

That was the one JG called the Deathstar.

What in the.....

In fact, Mosler's car wears two distinctly different engines. The one up front is a 275-hp Northstar like that found in the base Eldo, and the one in back is the 300-hp unit that comes in an ETC. The rear engine has a higher redline and uses lower gear ratios, so the engines shift at different times as the car accelerates.
Conquest351
Conquest351 Dork
2/16/12 3:44 p.m.

I was playing Forza 4 and converted my GLHS to RWD. Good Gawd that thing is fun!!! Wish I could have one in real life.

Will
Will Dork
2/16/12 5:46 p.m.

The thought of a RWD conversion makes me think a lot more about some of the pretty FWD cars that I don't like specifically because they're FWD. Unfortunately, this kind of work is way beyond my capabilities.

And yes, that MR Integra conversion was all kinds of awesome.

Javelin
Javelin SuperDork
2/16/12 5:58 p.m.
Will wrote: The thought of a RWD conversion makes me think a lot more about some of the pretty FWD cars that I don't like specifically because they're FWD.

Oh man, that is a BIG list! Just off the top of my head...

  • AE92 Corolla
  • Honda Prelude (all)
  • Integra (all)
  • Isuzu Impuse
  • 1st Gen Focus
  • 2nd Gen MX-6
  • Probe (all)
  • Escort EXP
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