Wow, truly cool stuff.
Axis of Oversteer - 1,500 fps F1 video
You can even seen the bald spot on the tire when Roso locks the brakes.
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July 13, 2009 9:11 a.m. Rangeball Reader
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July 13, 2009 9:15 a.m. maroon92 SuperDork
that was AWESOME...I noticed the flat spot too when I saw it on Autoblog yesterday.
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July 13, 2009 12:09 p.m. RossD Reader
thats amazing how much that front wing flexes on that white car.
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July 13, 2009 12:22 p.m. dyintorace Dork
Fantastic. Thanks for posting. I've never seen that before!
It's amazing to watch Vettel's car bounce around at ~2:25 in the video.
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July 13, 2009 12:29 p.m. griffin729 New Reader
I say it's amazing how much everything flexes when almost any of those cars went over the curb. Yay, carbon fiber, strong and flexible. I think the one that I saw that flexed the least was the Ferrari.
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July 13, 2009 2:37 p.m. P71 SuperDork
Cool, but nothing compared to what a Nitro drag car goes through.
If you can d footage of a Top Fuel Dragster at the top end, they actually "arch" from the downforce on each end. Watching the tires deform from short and fat to tall and skinny is cool too. My favorite is watching how much the rigid carbon fiber body of a funny car shakes, moves, and deforms.
On the F1's, you'd think they'd support those winglets better?
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July 13, 2009 3:02 p.m. DrBoost Reader
Jaw.......on......floor.......
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July 13, 2009 3:22 p.m. thatsnowinnebago HalfDork
What are the covers on the front wheels about? I've never noticed those before.
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July 13, 2009 3:45 p.m. Rangeball Reader
thatsnowinnebago wrote:
What are the covers on the front wheels about? I've never noticed those before.
Aerodynamics. They figured out that the cavity in the wheel well creates drag. They have to take them off though for hot days because it causes the brakes to get too hot. I.e., not enough ventilation.
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July 13, 2009 6:19 p.m. confuZion3 Dork
thatsnowinnebago wrote:
What are the covers on the front wheels about? I've never noticed those before.
That's awesome. F1s are jiggley cars.
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July 13, 2009 6:57 p.m. wherethefmi Dork
I thought They had scoops on the brakes, and that the covers helped evacuate the air from the wheel. And the rear's are like little turbines, to suck air through the brakes.
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July 13, 2009 7:34 p.m. confuZion3 SuperDork
I'd LOVE to see an F1 in wind tunnel testing with all the smoke going around them.
Hmm... Oh Youtube!
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July 13, 2009 7:35 p.m. TJ Reader
They claim that they are for brake cooling, when in fact they are movable aero devices (at least the fronts) and are only legal because Ferrari thought of it first. I hear they are going to be outlawed next year now that everyone has them.
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July 13, 2009 7:38 p.m. TJ Reader
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July 13, 2009 8:18 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork
how is the wheel cover a moveable aero device? it does not move at all through the whole race...
Mads are like the Lotus adjustable high mounted wing of the 60s...they were outlawed because they would disintegrate at speed causing instantanious loss of downforce...thus, crashing.
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July 13, 2009 8:36 p.m. confuZion3 SuperDork
maroon92 wrote:
how is the wheel cover a moveable aero device? it does not move at all through the whole race...
When you turn the wheel right or left, they turn right and left.
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July 14, 2009 8:07 p.m. AC
TJ wrote:
They claim that they are for brake cooling, when in fact they are movable aero devices (at least the fronts) and are only legal because Ferrari thought of it first. I hear they are going to be outlawed next year now that everyone has them.
The original version was for brake cooling, it was not protested by any of the teams.
This year it was Mclaren who took the concept much further and developed that sort of shroud around part of the tire first. This is done to clean the airflow while keeping the cooling action. Again this was not protested by any of the teams.
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July 14, 2009 9:02 p.m. NOHOME New Reader
Go back to the original ground effect cars; chaparals with a big suction fan run by a separate motor. (My history is a bit hazy, but you get the gist)
Did not take long to outlaw this particular technology as an unfair advantage.
Now, what if you could put some turbine blades on your rims and use them to pull air out from under the car?
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July 14, 2009 10:12 p.m. oldsaw Reader
NOHOME wrote:
Go back to the original ground effect cars; chaparals with a big suction fan run by a separate motor. (My history is a bit hazy, but you get the gist)
Did not take long to outlaw this particular technology as an unfair advantage.
Now, what if you could put some turbine blades on your rims and use them to pull air out from under the car?
The Chaparral 2J was outlawed because the FIA determined that the (separate) snow-mobile engine used to provide the suction power was a moveable aerodynamic device.
Such devices had already been banned by the FIA (for different applications of aerodynamic principles) prior to 1970.
I believe the wheel covers are banned for 2010, so it's pretty much a moot point after this season.
