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  • lesabre400

    May 6, 2011 3:14 p.m. lesabre400 New Reader

    Two words: scream and fly.

    http://www.screamandfly.com/forumdisplay.php?7-Hulls-up-to-20

    Vintage stuff shows up once in a while. Not exactly chumpcar-cheap but will definitely get your shorts wet, wink wink, nudge nudge. I'd like to find a classic Hydrostream or J-craft with an old Merc inline 6 tower.

  • stuart in mn

    May 6, 2011 6:49 p.m. stuart in mn SuperDork

    I'd recommend watching Minnesota Craigslists - Minneapolis, Brainerd, Duluth, Bemidji. There are always a ton of cheap boats for sale around here. I'm not sure why, but it seems you can pick up a boat, motor and trailer combination for less money than just buying a motor alone.

  • Brett_Murphy

    Feb. 22, 2012 12:43 p.m. Brett_Murphy Dork

    I started to replace the transom in my jon boat a week ago, and the next thing you know I've bought a completely stripped 16.5 foot Starcraft deep V-hull runabout hull. I think it is a 1968. I'm paying $275, including a very rusty trailer.

    The aluminum is in great shape, but there is nothing else in or on the boat- even the windshield is gone. I'm guessing by the time I'm done, I'm going to be into it for serious money, but I'll be able to take my time and know the boat is done well.

    I'm now soliciting links to boat junkyards and links on how to refurbish a boat.

  • irish44j

    Feb. 22, 2012 5:09 p.m. irish44j SuperDork

    As someone whose parents own a marina, I can say with some authority that 1. there is no "inexpensive" boat to own, unless it's a small sailboat. 2. there is no "cheap boat that can be fixed up for cheap," unless it's a small sailboat (and even then, not that cheap). 3. it's alot harder to go junkyard-diving for parts for a boat than for a car 4. there are alot less boats than cars out there, and alot less used parts. Most "used" parts that come off boats came off because they were no good.

    Aside from that, when your GRM beater car blows up an engine you just end up on the side of the road. When its roof leaks, you just end up with some water in the floorboard.

    On your GRM boat, when the engine blows up you're sitting in the middle of the bay and getting a towboat to come get you isn't cheap, and takes many hours. And when it springs a leak, you may sink.

    If you do get a "GRM" boat, make sure you get a contract with a tow company (like BoatUS). It's like AAA for the water, but far more important if you have an old boat.

    And get a kicker, definitely.

  • patgizz

    Feb. 22, 2012 5:22 p.m. patgizz SuperDork

    my free boat has been fixed for pretty cheap. the most expensive part was a new ignition. probably have $600 into it including new gas tank, ignition, floor, carpet, console(all made from reclaimed oak and mahogany). we're ready to go out with it, but the weather got cold before we had it finished.

    figure we'll take it out on a few test runs at the same time the FIL goes out in his boat, just in case something does not work right. i've run it quite a bit in the driveway with the motor in a trash can full of water and everything seems cool.

  • Apexcarver

    Feb. 22, 2012 6:17 p.m. Apexcarver SuperDork

    Selling my boat, want $1500 but make an offer. (seriously, if interested, lets talk)

    1972 MFG Gypsy 15' fiberglass hull with Johnson 65hp outboard. Will do about 38knots and has a trailer. Located in western MD.

    Need to get to my moms place and get a pic at some point soon.

  • FlightService

    Feb. 22, 2012 8:13 p.m. FlightService SuperDork

    irish is right, as a general rule, the most expensive thing ever is a cheap wooden boat.

    Aluminum on the other hand can be had reasonably, but cheap is a varied term. A great setup is like the Lund Fish and Ski, 40 hp yamaha, can pull a skier and 3 passengers and tough.

    I would like an aluminum I can put a jet in.

    Like an old coast guard rib.

  • irish44j

    Feb. 22, 2012 9:32 p.m. irish44j SuperDork

    I'm thinking of picking up something Chinese-built. They cost alot less and seem to do ok ;)

    And a quartet of MTU diesels pumping out 60,000hp sounds like fun.

  • Brett_Murphy

    Feb. 22, 2012 11:16 p.m. Brett_Murphy Dork

    Oh, I have no doubt I'm going to spend a bunch of money on the boat. I figure with a solid hull as a starting point, I can build a decent boat for a lot less than the $15 grand a new boat would cost.

    The real reason is that I really love the retro-cool look of the old runabouts. I think it is a Nova, they look kind of like this:

    If I get the boat fixed for $3000 of material, 160 hours of labor and then put a modern engine on it, that'll be "cheap" to me. I'll probably run way over on the labor, though.

    Look at my avatar: I enjoy doing expensive, weird, unusual and frustrating projects.

  • Strizzo

    Feb. 22, 2012 11:55 p.m. Strizzo SuperDork

    FlightService wrote:

    irish is right, as a general rule, the most expensive thing ever is a cheap wooden boat.

    Aluminum on the other hand can be had reasonably, but cheap is a varied term. A great setup is like the Lund Fish and Ski, 40 hp yamaha, can pull a skier and 3 passengers and tough.

    I would like an aluminum I can put a jet in.

    Like an old coast guard rib.

    sea doo has done it before

    http://vantuyl-auto-center.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/cars-for-site-002.jpg

    they were made from about 94-97 and came with anywhere from 65 to 90hp in the 580, 650 and 718 engines. not the most popular thing they made but they are a blast, i had the opportunity to do some work on a friend of the family's. they will get up and run just like any big seadoo, and turn on a dime just like a RIB.

    fwiw, my bargain boat $600 seadoo owes me close to 1k at the moment, and it has yet to see the water since i brought it home. in fact the carbs are apart on my bench waiting for parts to show up tomorrow. the good part is though that it should be back in running order soon. don't believe anyone that tells you ethanol blended gas is safe for all motors, even ones not designed specifically to run it.

  • Argo1

    Feb. 23, 2012 1:42 a.m. Argo1 Reader

    There are lots of deals on boats. This isn't a powerboat but I bought this with a blown engine and in need of refinishing for $5K. Dropped a new diesel in it and did some teak work. It's now got a market value of about $35K. An enjoyable vessel for ocean cruising as well.

  • Feb. 23, 2012 1:59 a.m. mguar HalfDork

    OOPs! You forgot! Boat grow. My first boat was a nice little aluminum 12 foot. traded that for 16 foot Chris Craft inboard, sold that and bought an 18 foot flat bottom drag boat.. sold than and bought a 19 foot fuel injected runner bottom brand new drag boat, SWMBO got really scared of that and said the only way she'd ever go boating again was if it had a potty in it. Wound up buying a 28 foot cruiser.. Perfect size.. well except when I retire I'm looking at 50 foot sail boats to go around the world in..

  • Feb. 23, 2012 2:03 a.m. mguar HalfDork

    stuart in mn wrote:

    I'd recommend watching Minnesota Craigslists - Minneapolis, Brainerd, Duluth, Bemidji. There are always a ton of cheap boats for sale around here. I'm not sure why, but it seems you can pick up a boat, motor and trailer combination for less money than just buying a motor alone.

    I didn't know you were interested.. a friend died and left his widow with a 32 ft. Chris Craft . both motors out and a lot of the cabin work removed but the price was come-N-get-it.. (Gone now)

  • mtn

    Feb. 23, 2012 2:04 a.m. mtn SuperDork

    mguar wrote:

    OOPs! You forgot! Boat grow.

    I believe that the scientific term is "Two footitus".

  • Feb. 23, 2012 2:37 a.m. mguar HalfDork

    In reply to mtn: one of the not understood bits is that big boats get cheap once they get scruffy lookin'. Big boats cost a lot to dock, to pull from the water, to repair, to store to etc..

    I can't believe how many big mahogany wooden cruisers I cut up and tossed onto bonfires just to get the metal out of them to scrap.. once all the wooden ones were pretty well gone. They started to cut up fiberglass ones..

    I've got a friend who has a marina and periodically he winds up owning some big old boat that he has to pay to scrap because the owners abandoned it and can't be found.

    Surprisingly a lot of big boats the banks don't even want.. They too know the thing needs more work to make it sell-able than the bank will recover.. The owners abandoned the boat 3-4-5 years ago because they could no longer make the payments or afford the marina fees..

    Neglected maybe filled with rain water or some minor leak they may have sunk and now sit in the corner of the marina waiting for disposition.. Sheriff auctions don't find any bidders because the market is down with very few buyers are out there.

    The Marina can't even recover enough from parting many out to pay for the dumpster fees needed for their disposal..

  • 1988RedT2

    Feb. 23, 2012 7:09 a.m. 1988RedT2 SuperDork

    Grassroots? Boat? This is it!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfJpM8PpLng

  • FlightService

    Feb. 23, 2012 7:52 a.m. FlightService SuperDork

    Strizzo wrote:

    sea doo has done it before

    http://vantuyl-auto-center.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/cars-for-site-002.jpg

    they were made from about 94-97 and came with anywhere from 65 to 90hp in the 580, 650 and 718 engines. not the most popular thing they made but they are a blast, i had the opportunity to do some work on a friend of the family's. they will get up and run just like any big seadoo, and turn on a dime just like a RIB.

    fwiw, my bargain boat $600 seadoo owes me close to 1k at the moment, and it has yet to see the water since i brought it home. in fact the carbs are apart on my bench waiting for parts to show up tomorrow. the good part is though that it should be back in running order soon. don't believe anyone that tells you ethanol blended gas is safe for all motors, even ones not designed specifically to run it.

    There were about a hundred boat builders that do a similar package. Most have normal seating and wheels (not handlebars). Avon does a really nice one.

    I just like the twin jets, you can do fun turns with twin jets.

  • Gasoline

    Feb. 23, 2012 9:53 a.m. Gasoline Reader

    I played with fast bass boats a little while back. It was fun, but expensive. This was a Shadow tunnel hull I had with a 300hp Yamaha Excel. We blew it up 4 times one summer.

    This is my current Ranger I fish tournaments in the SE with. If you want to go fishing...let me know. :)

  • Brett_Murphy

    Feb. 23, 2012 2:54 p.m. Brett_Murphy Dork

    That looks like one seriously expensive boat.

  • Strizzo

    Feb. 23, 2012 5:31 p.m. Strizzo SuperDork

    In reply to FlightService:

    i did not know about the other tender companies building jet powered RIBs, but it makes perfect sense. the little 8' tender on my parents trawler is such a PITA to put in the water and get running that we hardly ever bother with it and as a result it always needs fiddling with to get running right when we do use it. since they're upgrading to a larger boat soon, i've been keeping an eye out for a seadoo RIB that would be a good candidate for either re-power or in good enough shape to be reliable and easy enough to load on/off the boat.

  • irish44j

    Feb. 23, 2012 5:54 p.m. irish44j SuperDork

    Brett_Murphy wrote:

    Oh, I have no doubt I'm going to spend a bunch of money on the boat. I figure with a solid hull as a starting point, I can build a decent boat for a lot less than the $15 grand a new boat would cost.

    The real reason is that I really love the retro-cool look of the old runabouts. I think it is a Nova, they look kind of like this:

    If I get the boat fixed for $3000 of material, 160 hours of labor and then put a modern engine on it, that'll be "cheap" to me. I'll probably run way over on the labor, though.

    Look at my avatar: I enjoy doing expensive, weird, unusual and frustrating projects.

    the main problem is that boat engines are ALOT more expensive than car engines. Especially if it's outboard, and triple-especially if it's inboard/outboard (outdrive). Best to buy a boat with a good engine. Most of the rest is more labor than money. If you want cheapest, find a true inboard, since you can use most any engine with them that will fit. It's the outdrive section of the others that tend to really get pricey to maintain/fix/replace.

  • jmc14

    Feb. 23, 2012 9:06 p.m. jmc14 New Reader

    I threw this together this morning. I have time while I am waiting for a body to arrive for a Miata project.

    1 sheet of 3/4 pressure treated plywood some 1 inch foam pipe insulation 1 fiberglass seat I had laying around 1 70 inch truck inner tube.

    I cut 2 cross pieces from thy plywood that interlock. These are notched so that when the tube is inflated they are locked in. I cut a round section that was slotted so that it could slid down the interlocked pieces. This is for the floor. The floor is screwed in. I will cut a hole in the floor in the right front for a trolling motor. The wood bulkhead next to my right hand is to mount the trolling motor. On the bulkhead next to my left hand will mount a water cannon. I will mount some PVC tubing on one side to hold my fishing pole. On the other side another PVC tube will hold my Umbrella. It's rough right now but I will smooth everything out. I call it a "Turtle" Now I am ready for summer.

  • irish44j

    Feb. 23, 2012 9:18 p.m. irish44j SuperDork

    ^^ you win the GRM boat contest hands-down.

  • FlightService

    Feb. 23, 2012 11:06 p.m. FlightService SuperDork

    Hey Gasoline, did you run against any Allisons? Those things are perversely fast.

    (not the fishing model but same hull design)

    irish44j wrote:

    ^^ you win the GRM boat contest hands-down.

    Needs more Miata

    Strizzo wrote:

    In reply to FlightService:

    i did not know about the other tender companies building jet powered RIBs, but it makes perfect sense. the little 8' tender on my parents trawler is such a PITA to put in the water and get running that we hardly ever bother with it and as a result it always needs fiddling with to get running right when we do use it. since they're upgrading to a larger boat soon, i've been keeping an eye out for a seadoo RIB that would be a good candidate for either re-power or in good enough shape to be reliable and easy enough to load on/off the boat.

    Oh yeah here are some links

    Gemini Race RIBs when you really want to FLY

    ZAP Cat Race RIBs when you really want to fly faster than a Gemini

    These things do about 50 and have 2 people in them, a driver and a monkey. I have been the monkey (moving ballast) for a 10 lap test session. Most exhausting thing you can do with your clothes on, and the most fun. Zap Cat surf racing

    AB inflatables, very nice boats

    Avon SeaSport

    UK R.I.B. Manufacturers.

  • Gasoline

    Feb. 24, 2012 8:28 a.m. Gasoline Reader

    FlightService wrote:

    Hey Gasoline, did you run against any Allisons? Those things are perversely fast.

    I don't think I ever beat an Allison. They are faster with fewer horsepower, very innovative. I would like to buy a new Allison, but the price starts around $60k.

    Gambler and Stroker are very fast also.

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