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  • Volksroddin

    April 12, 2009 9:06 p.m. Volksroddin HalfDork

    What would be in the top 5 GRM car of the year? We're talking about price/performce and DIY friendly? Your thoughts ?

  • ReverendDexter

    April 12, 2009 9:14 p.m. ReverendDexter Reader

    Miata

    Crown Vic

    E30

    Turbocharged Miata

    LS1-swapped Miata

    Or does it have to be something you can buy new?

  • P71

    April 12, 2009 10:25 p.m. P71 Dork

    2009 Models?

    MS3, MX5, Cobalt SS/TC, M3, and... RX8? That's 3 Mazda's though...

    2010 Hopefulls?

    Genesis Coupe, Camaro, revised Mustang GT, revised MS3, and... Fiesta?

    All time?

    Miata, E30, RX7, MS3, SRT4?

  • Apexcarver

    April 12, 2009 10:46 p.m. Apexcarver SuperDork

    turbo volvo

    MR2

  • NickF40

    April 12, 2009 10:48 p.m. NickF40 Reader

    P71 wrote:

    2009 Models?

    MS3, MX5, Cobalt SS/TC, M3, and... RX8? That's 3 Mazda's though...

    2010 Hopefulls?

    Genesis Coupe, Camaro, revised Mustang GT, revised MS3, and... Fiesta?

    All time?

    Miata, E30, RX7, MS3, SRT4?

    way to sum it up!!

    Fiesta are frakin awsome, I love Top Gears reveiw on the RS Focus, i'm movin to the UK.................preferrably Scotland

  • John Brown

    April 13, 2009 7:01 a.m. John Brown SuperDork

    Top 5 2009 MY: (from the bottom)

    Cobalt SS/TC

    Mazda 3

    MINI Cooper S

    Pontiac Solstice GXP

    BMW 3 series

  • Tim Baxter

    April 13, 2009 7:33 a.m. Tim Baxter Online Editor

    Our Top 5 (so far):

    * Infiniti FX50S  
    * Nissan 370Z  
    * Porsche Cayenne S  
    * Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X MR  
    * Audi A4 Sedan 2.0 T quattro Tiptronic
    

    Top Bang For Buck

    * Nissan 370Z  
    * Saturn Sky Redline  
    * Dodge Caliber SRT4  
    * Hyundai Genesis  
    * Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X MR
    
  • Ian F

    April 13, 2009 7:49 a.m. Ian F Reader

    Having just been to the 2009 NY Auto show, my top 5:

    1. Miata (duh... the magazine is called "Grass Roots Miata," right? )

    2. Challenger R/T While I expected to like this car, I'm surprised by how much. Sure, it's a big, heavy tank... and the 6spd is a $1000 option... but I don't care. I look at the car and feel like I'm 16 again (which I'm sure is intentional). I want one. )

    The order of the next three are interchangable to me, listed at random...

    1. Genesis Coupe (nice, but hurt by the fact I had just gotten out of the Challenger when I looked at it, and the Challenger's interior blows the Hyundai away...)

    2. 370Z (nice car, but right now, I can't remember a damn thing about it...)

    3. Camaro SS (not a bad car, but if going for retro-muscle, I like the Challenger more).

    Honorable "family truckster" mention: Chrysler minivans. How ANYONE can buy an SUV after looking at one of these is beyond my comprehension... the stow-n-go seating set-up kicks ass. The cargo capacity of these things is incredible.

  • P71

    April 13, 2009 8:46 a.m. P71 Dork

    Holy crap I left out the MINI and the Solstice!

  • John Brown

    April 13, 2009 9:54 a.m. John Brown SuperDork

    That's okay, your last name is Pinto so all is good.

  • Brust

    April 13, 2009 1:30 p.m. Brust Reader

    The car I was actually most impressed (read: surprised) by was the mazda 5. It has no sporting pretensions, but for a family of four it would be a perfect mini-minivan. lotsa space, stowable seating, up-models looked like audi's inside. Unfortunately the only way to get a manual is in the base model. Imagine this thing with the ms3 drivetrain and mazda has a winner. No idea of driving dynamics, but I'd choose this over a transmission-grenading minivan any day.

  • Ian F

    April 13, 2009 2:00 p.m. Ian F Reader

    The Caymen S at the NY auto show was a real eye-opener...

    Base price: $60,000

    However, the one on the show floor had been loaded to the Nth degree with options.

    As-is price: $89,000 That's right... an almost 50% increase from the base price... Wow.

  • P71

    April 13, 2009 2:22 p.m. P71 Dork

    Spend some time on Porsche's website speccing out options. A $150K Caymen/Boxter is easy. The sheer amount of extra interior items will boggle your mind...

  • bravenrace

    April 13, 2009 2:45 p.m. bravenrace HalfDork

    Having driven a Solstice GXP for the last 7 months and 12,000 miles, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't put it on a car of the year list.

  • Josh

    April 13, 2009 4:31 p.m. Josh HalfDork

    Brust wrote:

    The car I was actually most impressed (read: surprised) by was the mazda 5. Imagine this thing with the ms3 drivetrain and mazda has a winner. No idea of driving dynamics,

    It's actually sort of fun, in an "Everyone must think I'm either insane or driving someone to the hospital when they see me make the tires squeal around a corner" sort of way. It drives like basically what it is, which is a 3 with a few hundred extra pounds and a slightly higher center of gravity. Interior is the best thought out, most versatile of any vehicle I have used. It really crams everything you need into a very reasonably sized vehicle. It would be ridiculously cool with an MS3 drivetrain, and I have serious thoughts of making one myself once the early cars get somewhere near challenge territory :).

  • Bobzilla

    April 13, 2009 4:34 p.m. Bobzilla Reader

    SX4 Sport + RRM Turbo Kit?

  • Volksroddin

    April 13, 2009 8:41 p.m. Volksroddin HalfDork

    I was think'n more Grass Roots, but its all good here is my 2 cents

    Miata

    Mini mkI or so

    MR2 dosent matter wich gen

    P71 or 9C! (I call them Nancy1)

    E30

    C4 Corvette

    Porcshe 911 or 914

  • pinchvalve

    April 13, 2009 9:08 p.m. pinchvalve SuperDork

    All time:
    MR2
    Miata
    Mustang GT
    E30 BMW
    Civic

    Current:
    Mazdaspeed 3
    Mustang GT
    WRX
    GTI
    Cobalt SS

    Near Future:
    Mazdaspeed 3
    Mustang GT
    Genesis Coupe
    GTI
    Camaro

    Distant Future:
    Nissan 240Z (miniature GTR with 2.4 liter turbo, 35+ mpg, sub $20K)
    United Motor Cars (GM, Chrysler, and Ford, now combined and under government control) Mustang III (flex-fuel V8)
    Toyota IGO turbo SSi
    VW Sportster Diesel Kia Racer SS ($14K, 300hp, sports suspension, 35mpg)

  • April 13, 2009 10:17 p.m. midknight Reader

    My All time faves!

    '67 Mini Cooper S 92 Miata Turbo '69 Duetto Spider Buick GNX '89 Swift GTi

  • Strike_Zero

    April 15, 2009 4:24 p.m. Strike_Zero New Reader

    My list:

    -04-06 Pontiac GTO - Muscle, performance, price (400hp for 15K . . .uh . . .YES!!)

    -92-99 BMW 3 Series (M3 performance without M3 money)

    -E30 BMWs (My first supercar

    -87-93 Mustang 5.0 (Drag racers Dream)

    -Anything you can fit a GENIII-LS motor in (the vehicle instantly becomes awesome)

    Done

  • Cotton

    April 15, 2009 4:30 p.m. Cotton Reader

    If Porsche 911 doesn't make it on the "of all time list" there is no hope.

  • 72SuperBrian

    April 15, 2009 4:52 p.m. 72SuperBrian Reader

    Cotton wrote:

    If Porsche 911 doesn't make it on the "of all time list" there is no hope.

    Having driven an 84 Carrera daily for three years now, I can say that it is no performance bargain. It's expensive to fix, has no heat to speak of, no A/C and the wife will complain every time she has to ride in it.

    Other than that it was a wonderful car! Involving, fun, sharp handling, torquey, well built and it didn't depreciate at all. We replaced it with a wife-friendly (and frankly more fun) Boxster S...

  • Cotton

    April 15, 2009 5:10 p.m. Cotton Reader

    72SuperBrian wrote:

    Cotton wrote:

    If Porsche 911 doesn't make it on the "of all time list" there is no hope.

    Having driven an 84 Carrera daily for three years now, I can say that it is no performance bargain. It's expensive to fix, has no heat to speak of, no A/C and the wife will complain every time she has to ride in it.

    Other than that it was a wonderful car! Involving, fun, sharp handling, torquey, well built and it didn't depreciate at all. We replaced it with a wife-friendly (and frankly more fun) Boxster S...

    I have an 85. Well kept and not a DD. It is an amazing performance car in it's own right. Mine has great heat and crappy AC, but who cares. My wife loves riding in ours, so I guess that is a matter of taste. I own cars that are faster, handle better, etc, but there is something about an air cooled 911...they have a lot of charactor. I guess it might not be on your "of all time" list, but it is on mine. Would I want one as a DD? Hell no. My 944 Turbo would make a much better DD, but as an all around great classic performance car a 911 is hard to beat.

 
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