So i got the MK2 from my brother and it runs decent but i know its capable of runnning way better. Since getting it I've been scouring info on an ABA. My brother does dirt track racing with a '90 GTI 16V. And I just realized that the OBD1 ABA has Forged Crank, Rods, Oil Squirters, Dual Valve Springs... Is it possible to do a 2.0 ABA Bottom with a 16V Head? Which pistons would be utilitized or would custom ones be in order. He was an extra ABA identical to the one in my car and has me thinking.... Later on I think I wanna swap my ABA for a G60. I loved that 'Rado's Torque, but not with that slushbox it had... Just my uck he picked up a 16V Passat for $350 with a bad engine... There'd been my tranny swap.... Go Figure!!!
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May 21, 2010 10:09 p.m. dansxr2 Reader
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May 21, 2010 10:20 p.m. fifty Reader
The 16v head onto an ABA is a common swap. Compression ratio with the swap is less than 9:1 IIRC. Do a search on the vortex - there are a ton of DIY pages there.
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May 21, 2010 10:26 p.m. Brotus7 Reader
Yup, that swap is common for people looking for boost. The opposite, putting an 8v head on a 16v block is done by people looking for some sort of high revving hand grenade 8v.
I'd just swap in a 9a 16v and be happy with it. I had a 1.8 16v (PL) that I rebuilt and used in my GTI and GLI. I also had a 9a in the GLI and the 2 liter engine felt like it had alot more torque. Now I have a supercharged MR2 and I can appreciate why the G60 is so popular, but for the money the VR6 is probably a better idea in the long run.
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May 22, 2010 4:58 p.m. dansxr2 Reader
what pistons would you run?
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May 24, 2010 11:16 p.m. CaptainSpaulding New Reader
Stock ABA pistons for low compression. 9a pistons for about 9.5 or so.
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May 25, 2010 8:42 a.m. 16vCorey SuperDork
Just stick with a 9A. If you're running it NA, you'll need custom pistons in an ABA 16v to match the performance of a stock 9A.
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May 25, 2010 8:49 a.m. DukeOfUndersteer SuperDork
This guy on Vortex is selling his ABA 2.0 with MegaSquirt setup...
Decided to sell my megasquirt engine and go diesel.
That said. 2.0 16V block 1.8 16V head Mystery intake cam scirocco manifold Passat t/b with TPS BBM fuel rail 210cc injectors from a 1.8t AEB passat g60 injector cups 3.5fpr scirocco exhaust mani TTT stainless downpipe mk3 serpentine belt setup b5 waterpump pulley MS1 v2.2 Msns-E. Wired to run a stock VW distributor. Complete fuel and timing control. You get the ECU and engine harness. This motor is a BAREBONES motor. Not even setup for cabin heat as I deleted all those hoses. Side of head has a custom blockoff plate with the coolant sensor in it now.
Price is 1G. Will consider parting:
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May 25, 2010 9:02 a.m. ditchdigger Reader
The pistons you would require for an ABA block and 16V head are the euro market ABF pistons. I do beleive Techtonics tuning sells them.
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May 25, 2010 1:18 p.m. CaptainSpaulding New Reader
I dont think TT sells them anymore. Or I just got some one that doesnt know what they are doing on the phone.
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May 25, 2010 10:08 p.m. Paul_VR6 Reader
I have a buddy with an ABF short block that he wants gone BAD..
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May 26, 2010 3:41 a.m. dansxr2 Reader
paul, where is these engine?
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May 26, 2010 7:09 a.m. Brotus7 Reader
I forgot about the other combo, 9a short block, PL head, euro intake cam and if you can find one, euro intake manifold. Couple that with a free flowing exhaust and you'll make plenty of power.
What's the draw of an ABF as opposed to a hybrid of the various available 16vs?
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May 26, 2010 11:49 a.m. Paul_VR6 Reader
Near Pottstown, PA
ABF has long rods like the ABA and will like to rev better with the long stroke. You can even use 9A pistons with offset rod bushings in an ABA to get stock comp, but few go that route. You can also deck the ABA block 1+mm but then you have to deal with cam offsets.
I personally like stock 9A's but the cheap ones are out of Passats and they tend to be very beat. It's usually cheaper to just build up an ABA hybrid, though some folks are starting to use AEG or 1.8t blocks as a base as they become more common.
