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  • foxtrapper

    Aug. 28, 2011 7:53 p.m. foxtrapper SuperDork

    Ah, fun with the boys in blue. One is an idiot, but they close ranks around him and protect him. So you lose, but they win. As it almost always is with them.

  • mad_machine

    Aug. 28, 2011 7:58 p.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    wbjones wrote:

    same with us... a satellite NCHP station directly across the street from our lot... the only interest they show is busting the E36 M3 out of the occasional shiny happy person that we get that leaves is stupid manner

    Those people deserve it

  • JoeyM

    Aug. 28, 2011 8:04 p.m. JoeyM SuperDork

    mad_machine wrote:

    wbjones wrote:

    same with us... a satellite NCHP station directly across the street from our lot... the only interest they show is busting the E36 M3 out of the occasional shiny happy person that we get that leaves is stupid manner

    Those people deserve it

    +1

  • Gearheadotaku

    Aug. 29, 2011 12:50 p.m. Gearheadotaku Dork

    Will wrote:

    Our club holds a for-charity challenge every year between several different LEO jurisdictions. They each send one officer in a marked car, and the winnner gets a trophy for the department. We never have a problem with the law.

    Though we did find that strobes tripped our timing lights.

    Awsome idea!

  • pinchvalve

    Aug. 29, 2011 1:03 p.m. pinchvalve SuperDork

    How is a field of Miatas and CRXs considered Full Sized cars?

  • Gearheadotaku

    Aug. 29, 2011 1:08 p.m. Gearheadotaku Dork

    pinchvalve wrote:

    How is a field of Miatas and CRXs considered Full Sized cars?

    true.....

  • mad_machine

    Aug. 29, 2011 1:09 p.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    once upon a time they were.. before 4000 pound challengers and monster SUVs came about

  • ReverendDexter

    Aug. 29, 2011 3:34 p.m. ReverendDexter SuperDork

    That's why I'm glad our location is at the police training grounds, hahaha. They show up and interrupt us about every other event, but that's so they can drive across and get to their storage shed on the backside of the track.

  • N Sperlo

    Aug. 29, 2011 3:52 p.m. N Sperlo Dork

    kazoospec wrote:

    darkbuddha wrote:

    N Sperlo wrote:

    kazoospec wrote:

    one particular state trooper said he thought it was "reckless driving", implying he thought he could ticket participants, although he didn't end up doing so.

    Federal law states an officer must call his supervisor when asked to while being questioned. This would probably be a time to ask for a supervisor.

    Can you provide some citation for this... I'd like to read it for future reference. Does anyone know if federal law automatically trumps local municipality laws and ordinances?

    I've been an assistant prosecutor for over 10 years and never heard of this. Not saying its impossible just because I haven't heard about it, but I tend to doubt there's any specific federal law on that issue. Its generally a matter of good police practice when a citizen asks for a supervisor to honor the request, and most officers I know are more than happy to allow someone drawing administrative pay to make the questionable calls. That said, if an officer tells you to stop doing something, you pretty much have to stop it or it'll end up being way more trouble than its worth. Hopefully, its just a isolated incident for us.

    I'll see if I can find it. Last I heard it was a fed law, but who knows. Sometimes even I get it wrong.

  • N Sperlo

    Aug. 29, 2011 4:31 p.m. N Sperlo Dork

    Couldn't back it up, so probably misinformation. Not a bad idea though.

  • cwh

    Aug. 29, 2011 4:45 p.m. cwh SuperDork

    Hell, here we have a Police Department that runs a drag strip! You can race a full dress P71, lights and all. You win, you get a T-Shirt that says "I beat the Heat!".

  • RexSeven

    Aug. 29, 2011 5:39 p.m. RexSeven SuperDork

    Our main autocross venue is an unused airfield at an Army fort, which also serves as the driver training and vehicle storage area for the Mass. State Police. Occasionally we'll get a visit from the Base MPs or MSP. They'll usually chat with the drivers and watch for a little bit before going back to their rounds. I've never seen one take the course. We've also halted the race occasionally so that the Army transport trucks based just off the airfield can move.

    The local cops are much more hostile to the racers. They will set up speed traps, follow cars all the way to the town lines, and hand out fix-it tickets even to the Stock-class cars.

  • kazoospec

    Aug. 29, 2011 6:15 p.m. kazoospec Reader

    pinchvalve wrote:

    How is a field of Miatas and CRXs considered Full Sized cars?

    How did you know 1/2 of the field were Miatas? Got a good laugh at that one. It was suggested that we all go to the local Meijer, buy $15.00 R/C cars and a bunch of cheap batteries and continue the event.

    RX - I was getting all sorts of hostile looks from the local PD while we were leaving the event and couldn't figure out why until I realized I left the class and numbers on the sides of the car. Oooops. Definitely not the event to make that mistake.

  • wbjones

    Aug. 29, 2011 6:30 p.m. wbjones SuperDork

    JoeyM wrote:

    mad_machine wrote:

    wbjones wrote:

    same with us... a satellite NCHP station directly across the street from our lot... the only interest they show is busting the E36 M3 out of the occasional shiny happy person that we get that leaves is stupid manner

    Those people deserve it

    +1

    I'm in complete agreement ... that is always a point made over and over again at the drivers meeting... still some people just can't help being stupid

  • Aug. 30, 2011 9:45 a.m. guibo New Reader

    This spring the police showed up at a new venue for us. We let them make a few runs, they had so much fun that THEY put it on their facebook page.

    Westbrook Maine Police Department Facebook Page

  • mtn

    Aug. 30, 2011 9:56 a.m. mtn SuperDork

    RexSeven wrote:

    The local cops are much more hostile to the racers. They will set up speed traps, follow cars all the way to the town lines, and hand out fix-it tickets even to the Stock-class cars.

    Fix-it ticket?

  • Drewsifer

    Aug. 30, 2011 10:11 a.m. Drewsifer Dork

    oldsaw wrote:

    Sounds like the club needs to initiate some PR meetings with the local police and State Police; get them involved.

    Set-up appointments, bring a laptop and show them the info and video that was shown to the school superintendent. Invite the police to attend, observe and even compete at your events.

    Good luck...............

    This. When I AutoX with the Carrera Region PCA they always told the Police before hand about events and we never got bothered. Then again it was El Paso, so they were probably to busy to hassle us.

  • Slyp_Dawg

    Aug. 30, 2011 10:13 a.m. Slyp_Dawg HalfDork

    mtn wrote:

    RexSeven wrote:

    The local cops are much more hostile to the racers. They will set up speed traps, follow cars all the way to the town lines, and hand out fix-it tickets even to the Stock-class cars.

    Fix-it ticket?

    citation for equipment that they deem to be "broken"/wouldn't pass state inspection. normally burnt-out/broken brake lights or stuff like that, but, like so many other laws, it's so open to interpretation that if the cop really wants to, they could ticket you for anything mechanical under the guise of a fix-it ticket

  • Hasbro

    Aug. 30, 2011 3:26 p.m. Hasbro Dork

    Plenty of good policemen out there. There are also plenty that would be Nazis if they could.

  • mad_machine

    Aug. 30, 2011 4:55 p.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    probably 9/10s are good.. but that 1 makes all the others look bad

  • Feedyurhed

    Aug. 30, 2011 7:58 p.m. Feedyurhed HalfDork

    Many years ago I was at an autocross that was shut down due to the noise levels. The lot was located near homes, it was a Sunday and the home owners were complaining about the noise from the squealing tires not the engine sounds. The cops came out and shut it down even though all the necessary paperwork was in order. I was actually in line to make my first run when we all had to go home. Bummer.

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