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  • Tom F

    Aug. 7, 2010 11:55 a.m. Tom F New Reader

    it's a live rear axle so it will be really straight forward to swap a drive axle in

    the driveshaft would be set up like a legends car with it going to the sprocket on the transmission

    I know the front suspension is a little weird on the first gen CRX, but I'm not too worried about it

    they are super cheap and hardly weigh anything, a 180hp 1700lb car would be a lot of fun

  • Grtechguy

    Aug. 7, 2010 12:57 p.m. Grtechguy SuperDork

    all we can say is " DO IT DO IT DO IT"!!!

  • Kendall_Jones

    Aug. 7, 2010 1:28 p.m. Kendall_Jones Reader

    Might be fun until you needed to back up :)

    Might need a lighter car, the busa has 90(?) Ft lb of torque at 10k, probably nothing at 1k.

    Kj

  • Aug. 7, 2010 1:31 p.m. z31maniac Dork

    ^One way to help would be gear it to top out around 130-140 vs 200.

    But I still think an engine with that little TQ in a car, not a locost, would be a bit of bear.

  • doc_speeder

    Aug. 7, 2010 2:36 p.m. doc_speeder Reader

    Sounds cool, and you could likely get the weight under 1700 lbs no? You're getting rid of a heavy (relatively) motor/trans, the bike engine will be much lighter. You'd likely get pretty good and changing clutches... No reverse would suck.

  • poopshovel

    Aug. 7, 2010 2:40 p.m. poopshovel SuperDork

    I know the front suspension is a little weird on the first gen CRX, but I'm not too worried about it

    If by "weird" you mean "incredibly simple," yes.

  • Aug. 7, 2010 2:57 p.m. grimmelshanks Reader

    terrible idea. do it.

  • jimbob_racing

    Aug. 7, 2010 3:54 p.m. jimbob_racing HalfDork

    Been thinking of this myself. Should be doable, especially with some significant gutting (dash and all the crap behind it, door glass and regulators, stock engine and tranny).

  • poopshovel

    Aug. 7, 2010 4:08 p.m. poopshovel SuperDork

    Oh, and you should very, very, very easily be able to get it under 1500lbs.

  • Aug. 7, 2010 4:15 p.m. Mikey52_1 Reader

    grimmelshanks wrote:

    terrible idea. do it.

    poopshovel said:

    Oh, and you should very, very, very easily be able to get it under 1500lbs

    And then, boy...oh yeah, the fun begins! But bring earplugs....unless you LIKE the ringing in your ears.

  • Aug. 7, 2010 4:17 p.m. Mikey52_1 Reader

    Twin 'Busas may be an adjunct to the idea, just to get the insanity factor 'up there'

  • HappyJack

    Aug. 7, 2010 4:20 p.m. HappyJack Reader

    Search the internet, I read somewhere of someone who made a 2nd Gen CRX into a 4WD using the drivetrain from a 80's 4wd Civic wagon.

    It looked cool, you couldn't tell it was 4WD, and it was fast.

  • thatsnowinnebago

    Aug. 7, 2010 5:25 p.m. thatsnowinnebago Dork

    4WD is so much easier than that. Busa motor in the front, busa motor in the back. Boom. Done.

  • Aug. 7, 2010 5:50 p.m. Mikey52_1 Reader

    thatsnowinnebago wrote:

    4WD is so much easier than that. Busa motor in the front, busa motor in the back. Boom. Done.

    THAT'S what I'm talkin' 'bout, hey!

  • MrJoshua

    Aug. 7, 2010 6:30 p.m. MrJoshua SuperDork

    Graft a Miata subframe into the rear. Fab a diff mount and axles in the front to the factory hubs. Use 2 bike motors with sprocket to driveshaft adapters 1 motor aiming forwards, 1 motor aiming backwards. With this plan you can use dirt cheap 600cc motors and still have more power than the Busa. Twin transmissions and 4wd will allow the bike trans to last longer as well.

  • Tom F

    Aug. 8, 2010 6:33 a.m. Tom F New Reader

    not going to do twin engines, trying to do it on a budget lol

    I'm thinking it should be possible to do it for under $5k

    $500ish for the car

    $100-200 for the rear axle

    $2-3000 for the engine and wiring harness, ecu, etc.

    $300 or so to get the driveshaft made at a local shop

    and then whatever is left for random things that pop up along the way

  • Tom F

    Aug. 8, 2010 6:35 a.m. Tom F New Reader

    z31maniac wrote:

    ^One way to help would be gear it to top out around 130-140 vs 200.

    But I still think an engine with that little TQ in a car, not a locost, would be a bit of bear.

    that's the plan, I was going to use a foxbody rear end so there would be lots of final drive options to play around with as well as being cheap and readily available

  • vazbmw

    Aug. 8, 2010 8:51 a.m. vazbmw Reader

    Here is the solution to the gearing and the reverse gear This is brilliant: how to make Hayabusa move a car

  • 4cylndrfury

    Aug. 8, 2010 9:31 a.m. 4cylndrfury SuperDork

    vazbmw wrote: how to make Hayabusa move a car

    SWEET HOLY JESUS

    Words cannot adequately express the EPICWINSAUCE thats happening there

  • Tom F

    Aug. 8, 2010 10:05 a.m. Tom F New Reader

    vazbmw wrote:

    Here is the solution to the gearing and the reverse gear This is brilliant: how to make Hayabusa move a car

    yeah I've been watching their progress on that, really impressive

    sadly I don't have a CNC machine lol

  • unevolved

    Aug. 8, 2010 11:01 a.m. unevolved HalfDork

    Is it weird I don't see the point to that build? Or am I just so messed up that I think a Miata is too large?

  • 4cylndrfury

    Aug. 8, 2010 11:42 a.m. 4cylndrfury SuperDork

    unevolved wrote:

    Is it weird I don't see the point to that build? Or am I just so messed up that I think a Miata is too large?

    the door is over there...please see your way out. There will be someone at the front gate to collect your credentials. Please have a nice life.

  • unevolved

    Aug. 8, 2010 12:04 p.m. unevolved HalfDork

    Maybe it's because I'm going in the opposite direction with ours.

  • 4cylndrfury

    Aug. 8, 2010 12:26 p.m. 4cylndrfury SuperDork

    no no no dont get me wrong the VQ route is plenty entertaining as well...would be fun to see which one does better - bulk'd up displacement or adding lightness? on the 1320 Id think the VQ wins hands down, but as soon as you have to use the steering wheel, Id say nimble may have an edge...

  • Aug. 8, 2010 12:48 p.m. Knurled Reader

    Tom F wrote:

    it's a live rear axle so it will be really straight forward to swap a drive axle in

    It's the trans tunnel that will kill you. That, and the rear suspension is 100% useless for locating a live axle, so you're going to be cutting floor and such no matter what.

    I know the front suspension is a little weird on the first gen CRX, but I'm not too worried about it

    Where's the rack?

    they are super cheap

    Where are you at? I'm bringing a car hauler.

    if you can find CRXs, you can find Starlets. Those meet your criteria with a higher chance of not sucking.

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