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porksboy
porksboy Dork
4/3/10 8:34 p.m.

While stuck in traffic yesterday I decided to check the used car lots to see what was on the lot. While at the Hyundai dealer I saw the Genesis coupe. I even went for a drive in a 2.0T track version.

2.0 litre turbo four (210 H.P. 223 ft.lbs), 6 speed gearbox with a proper clutch, big brembo brakes, stiff suspension with big anti sway bars. I was suprised with the fit and finish of the interior.

One thing that doesnt make sense is the track model comes with a sunroof as standard, power locks windows, mirrors, seats. Why not make it a stripped down model and enjoy the decrease in weight?

All in all I was rather impressed. Now to wait for the depreciation curve to kick in and maybe hit bottom.

P71
P71 SuperDork
4/3/10 8:53 p.m.

What you want is the Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec. Turbo motor, 6-speed, Brembos, Torsen, and the big wheels but without the sunroof, cruise, fancy radio, and other luxury items. Cheaper, too.

lewbud
lewbud Reader
4/3/10 8:54 p.m.

It allows you the privilege of buying more stuff you don't want to get the stuff you do want.

porksboy
porksboy Dork
4/3/10 9:13 p.m.
P71 wrote: What you want is the Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec. Turbo motor, 6-speed, Brembos, Torsen, and the big wheels but without the sunroof, cruise, fancy radio, and other luxury items. Cheaper, too.

Yeah, that was on my mind. Gotta wait for the after market to catch and supply springs, shocks, and struts.

grimmelshanks
grimmelshanks New Reader
4/3/10 9:21 p.m.

what you REALLY want, is a miata

irish44j
irish44j HalfDork
4/3/10 9:46 p.m.

Because without that stuff, a very small number of people (pretty much.....the people here) would be the only ones that bought it. And low volume /= much profit.

Most people who buy the "track model" of any car out there probably get it for the bragging rights anyhow, rather than to make it a regular track car.....

irish44j
irish44j HalfDork
4/3/10 9:47 p.m.

I wouldn't wait too long for depreciation though. Hyundai is where Honda and Toyota were a couple decades ago. It won't be long before they start holding their value like Honda and Toyota do....

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
4/3/10 9:50 p.m.
irish44j wrote: I wouldn't wait too long for depreciation though. Hyundai is where Honda and Toyota were a couple decades ago. It won't be long before they start holding their value like Honda do and Toyota used to....

Fixed

JeepinMatt
JeepinMatt HalfDork
4/3/10 9:50 p.m.

Supposedly the V6 is said to be more of a grand tourer type and the four banger is more of an outright sports car. I know which one I'd get.

John Brown
John Brown SuperDork
4/3/10 10:07 p.m.

I guess the difference is lost on me. I treated the V6 car to a severe whooping and it acted like a winner to me.

irish44j
irish44j HalfDork
4/3/10 10:10 p.m.
aussiesmg wrote:
irish44j wrote: I wouldn't wait too long for depreciation though. Hyundai is where Honda and Toyota were a couple decades ago. It won't be long before they start holding their value like Honda do and Toyota used to....

Fixed

KBB on my 4Runner is currently at about what I paid for it new 2 years (and 15k miles) ago.....

Then again, 4Runner didn't have the acceleration issues and doesn't have much competition in the body-on-frame SUV category, outside the Xterra.

irish44j
irish44j HalfDork
4/3/10 10:11 p.m.
JeepinMatt wrote: Supposedly the V6 is said to be more of a grand tourer type and the four banger is more of an outright sports car. I know which one I'd get.

4banger = lighter weight, better balance, and easy big power thanks to tuuuurrrrrbbbo...:)

I do love me a 6-cyl GT car though :)

Lesley
Lesley SuperDork
4/3/10 10:19 p.m.

I had the V6 with Brembos a couple of weeks, and while I really liked its power and flat, flat cornering... it felt bloody big.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
4/3/10 10:28 p.m.
irish44j wrote: KBB on my 4Runner is currently at about what I paid for it new 2 years (and 15k miles) ago..... Then again, 4Runner didn't have the acceleration issues and doesn't have much competition in the body-on-frame SUV category, outside the Xterra.

Just wait until the next edition of KBB, you know after the minor issues came to light

irish44j
irish44j HalfDork
4/3/10 10:48 p.m.
aussiesmg wrote:
irish44j wrote: KBB on my 4Runner is currently at about what I paid for it new 2 years (and 15k miles) ago..... Then again, 4Runner didn't have the acceleration issues and doesn't have much competition in the body-on-frame SUV category, outside the Xterra.

Just wait until the next edition of KBB, you know after the minor issues came to light

4Runner wasn't one of the models recalled, so I care not ;)

That, and we put about 5k miles a year on it and it's a great truck...no intention of selling it in the next decade, to tell the truth....

That said, they were just showing on the news that Toyota March 2010 sales were pretty similar to March 2009 sales. I think that most people don't buy into the hype about "unintended accelleration" stuff and alot of people are actually buying Toyotas thinking they'll get a better deal because of the bad press.

It's all academic though.....this little hiccup isn't going to magically make GM a more palatable alternative to those who would be looking for Toyotas.

Though it might help Hyundai - the new sonata is pretty sweet!

pete240z
pete240z Dork
4/3/10 10:56 p.m.

I drove both manual trans models. (4 and 6 cylinder)

I like the 6 cylinder as power came on quickly. The 4 cylinder was slower off the line. But they are way out of my price range.

I am doing a lesson on needs vs wants tomorrow (you know, Sunday School stuff)

You WANT a Genesis, you NEED a Miata.

porksboy
porksboy Dork
4/3/10 11:12 p.m.

I have been thinking Miata but the semblance of a rear seat does have advantages. ;)

Fit_Is_Slo
Fit_Is_Slo Reader
4/4/10 12:51 a.m.
irish44j wrote:
aussiesmg wrote:
irish44j wrote: I wouldn't wait too long for depreciation though. Hyundai is where Honda and Toyota were a couple decades ago. It won't be long before they start holding their value like Honda do and Toyota used to....

Fixed

KBB on my 4Runner is currently at about what I paid for it new 2 years (and 15k miles) ago.....

Then again, 4Runner didn't have the acceleration issues and doesn't have much competition in the body-on-frame SUV category, outside the Xterra.

Honda fits are doing quite well too!

paul
paul Reader
4/4/10 8:08 a.m.

I test drove the 3.8 track at an autocross, what a horribly narrow powercurve... felt like a stock wrx basically; nice power, but nowhere near the thrust of a supposed 306hp...then around 5k rpm the power comes in, and time to shift soon afterwards...

Grip was low, understeer was high, but body movements were well controlled.

Also, the back of these things is VERY wide, made it tough to squeeze through the cones: genesis coupe: 74.4 in C6 vette: 72.6 in

I wouldn't want to replace 18 or 19" tires though $$$

z31maniac
z31maniac Dork
4/4/10 8:59 a.m.
irish44j wrote:
JeepinMatt wrote: Supposedly the V6 is said to be more of a grand tourer type and the four banger is more of an outright sports car. I know which one I'd get.

4banger = lighter weight, better balance, and easy big power thanks to tuuuurrrrrbbbo...:)

I do love me a 6-cyl GT car though :)

Have you looked at the specs? The Turbo isn't even 100lbs lighter. It weighs as much as my 350Z but minus 80hp.

Haven't driven one yet, but can't imagine it's "peppy."

z31maniac
z31maniac Dork
4/4/10 9:00 a.m.
porksboy wrote:
P71 wrote: What you want is the Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec. Turbo motor, 6-speed, Brembos, Torsen, and the big wheels but without the sunroof, cruise, fancy radio, and other luxury items. Cheaper, too.

Yeah, that was on my mind. Gotta wait for the after market to catch and supply springs, shocks, and struts.

I believe the guys at Vorshlag are working on an AST setup for the Genesis now.

If you have the cash, that'd be the direction I'd go.

P71
P71 SuperDork
4/4/10 9:03 a.m.

The Turbo GC is supposed to get the direct-injected turbo motor (the ~280HP one from the Sonata) in 2011. Might be worth waiting for

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
4/4/10 5:16 p.m.

they are pretty big. I had a gen 1 tiburon.. the next gen was even bigger.. the Genesis is freaken huge compared to the sports coupes that came before.

I do like it though

CLNSC3
CLNSC3 Reader
4/5/10 1:51 a.m.

I test drove a 2.0T track model a couple of months ago and came away impressed. Not so much with the power or handling, more so with the fit and finish of the interior and the whole car in general. It really impressed me how far Hyundai has came since the last one I drove(99ish Accent). With that incredibly warranty you can't loose either. I only wonder how "mod friendly" Hyundai is going to be with their warranty. Years ago when WRXs first came out my buddy blew the tranny in his at like 20K, the dealership refused to cover it under warranty because he had an aftermarket blow off valve. If Hyundai is reasonable with their warranty coverage I could seriously see myself buying a 2.0T R-spec and modding it up to the 300whp or so that it SHOULD have came with...

Appleseed
Appleseed SuperDork
4/5/10 2:45 a.m.

I drive a Caprice. You guys calling anything huge makes me laugh.

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