Only the one, but I could say the same about that Fiat 
Coincidentally, another way to break the data down would be 2003-older, and 2004-newer, seeing as there was a major change in the budget rules for 04.
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Oct. 28, 2009 4:17 p.m. eastsidemav Reader
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Oct. 28, 2009 4:20 p.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork
Raze wrote:
93celicaGT2 wrote:
I would love to find a cheap old V6 Camry to molest for the Challenge.
You sir are sick.
Slammed, boosted and/or sprayed, sticky tires, gutted to hell and back. Admit it, you can see the appeal here.
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Oct. 28, 2009 4:31 p.m. poopshovel UltraDork
boosted and/or sprayed
What is this "or" thing you speak of?
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Oct. 28, 2009 4:33 p.m. John Brown MegaDork
"Or" is a conjunctive used by Bob Costas.
Real men wear "and" as a badge of honor.
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Oct. 28, 2009 4:41 p.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork
Well, of course, those WITHOUT balls would choose "or."
The motor is plenty strong enough to make a couple boost AND nitrous runs for the sake of the greater good.
THE GREATER GOOD.
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Oct. 28, 2009 5:12 p.m. fiat22turbo UltraDork
93celicaGT2 wrote:
Well, of course, those WITHOUT balls would choose "or."
The motor is plenty strong enough to make a couple boost AND nitrous runs for the sake of the greater good.
THE GREATER GOOD.
Stop that!
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Oct. 28, 2009 5:37 p.m. dean1484 Dork
You should asterisks the categories that have had challenge winners. High volume does not really mean anything in term of a cars potential to win. However if a car type has low volume of entries but has won that is useful info.
EDIT: The number of asterisks could represent the number of wins if there are multiple in a particular car make.
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Oct. 28, 2009 5:59 p.m. eastsidemav Reader
dean1484 wrote:
You should asterisks the categories that have had challenge winners. High volume does not really mean anything in term of a cars potential to win. However if a car type has low volume of entries but has won that is useful info.
EDIT: The number of asterisks could represent the number of wins if there are multiple in a particular car make.
Not a bad idea. And easy to do. For the data I have, its now done.
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Oct. 28, 2009 6:13 p.m. eastsidemav Reader
Wheels777 just sent me spreadsheets with results info for years that were missing. I'll update the spreadsheet and try to update the results in the first post tonight.
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Oct. 28, 2009 7:21 p.m. eastsidemav Reader
Updated with the data from Wheels. Thanks!
Some of the older data was less detailed than what was in the spotter's guides, ditto for the 08/09 results. In some cases, I guessed the generation, in others, I added another row for unknown.
I wouldn't mind doing a detailed database as time permits, if I can get some more detailed info on the years I just have result sheets. However, this is GRM's data, and I'd really like their permission before I put it into a searchable database.
Oh yeah, and if y'all don't mind another long post, I can post it alphabetically, too.
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Oct. 28, 2009 8:59 p.m. jwdmotorsports HalfDork
2002 Challenge Cars
1976 BMW 2002
1987 Dodge Omni
1987 Mazda RX7 TII
Nissan 343 Coop (300ZX)
MGB
1981 Nissan 280ZX
1988 Subaru XT6
1978 Alfa Romeo Spider
Merker XR4Ti
1988 Mazda 323 GTX
1986 Merker XR4Ti
1985 Toyota MR2
1991 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD
1976 BMW 2002
1962 MG Midget
1986 Ford Mustang
1988 VW Scirocco
1986 Merker XR4Ti
1989 Honda Civic Si JDM
1986 Saab 900 Turbo
1987 Acura Integra
1987VW GTI
1984 Mazda RX7
1987 Honda Civic Si
1991 Toyota MR2
1965 Chevy Corvair Monza
1991 Dodge Spirit R/T
1989 Suzuki Swift Gti
1977 VW Rabbit
1988 Yugo GVX
1985 Mazda RX7
1985 Nissan 300ZX Turbo
1985 Mazda RX7
1979 Ford Fiesta
1993 VW Jetta
1985 Merker XR4Ti
1986 Honda CRX
1986 Toyota MR2
1986 Ford Mustang GT
1986 Mitsubishi Starion
1980 Mazda RX7 GS
1986 Ford Mustang LX
1988 Ford Thunderbird
1988 Dodge Daytona C/S
1989 Ford Probe GT
1988 Ford Ranger
1982 Mustang GL
1987 Mazda RX7 TII
1998 Dodge Neon
1975 Chevy Monza Towne Coupe
1987 Honda Civic Si
1968 Triumph GT6
1972 Porsche 914
1964 Plymouth Valiant Signet 200
1986 Dodge Shelby Charger
1973 Chevy Camaro LT
1987 Mazda RX7
1990 VW Jetta GL
1989 Honda Civic Si
1983 Mazda RX7 GS
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Oct. 29, 2009 7:14 a.m. Raze Reader
93celicaGT2 wrote:
Raze wrote:
93celicaGT2 wrote:
I would love to find a cheap old V6 Camry to molest for the Challenge.
You sir are sick.
Slammed, boosted and/or sprayed, sticky tires, gutted to hell and back. Admit it, you can see the appeal here.
I think you exposed me to your sickness
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Oct. 29, 2009 7:21 a.m. spin_out New Reader
I like the Camary idea, but don't know why. This coming from a guy who keeps looking at mini vans as potential Challenge entrants.
You know if you lower that Caravan, strip it, add nitrous, and sticky tires.......
Thanks for the list.
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Oct. 29, 2009 7:31 a.m. alfadriver HalfDork
eastsidemav wrote:
dean1484 wrote:
You should asterisks the categories that have had challenge winners. High volume does not really mean anything in term of a cars potential to win. However if a car type has low volume of entries but has won that is useful info.
EDIT: The number of asterisks could represent the number of wins if there are multiple in a particular car make.
Not a bad idea. And easy to do. For the data I have, its now done.
Another thought is to add a ^ and/or a # and a @ for catagory wins- autocross, drag, etc. Just a thought.
Great list, though. Reading through it, I wonder about a few other killer street prepared cars that have yet to try this event- mainly an X1/9. But if one can make a real smack down autocrosser, I think you can win with 13 sec 1/4 time.
Eric
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Oct. 29, 2009 9:04 a.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork
Raze wrote:
93celicaGT2 wrote:
Raze wrote:
93celicaGT2 wrote:
I would love to find a cheap old V6 Camry to molest for the Challenge.
You sir are sick.
Slammed, boosted and/or sprayed, sticky tires, gutted to hell and back. Admit it, you can see the appeal here.
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I think you exposed me to your sickness
If you want to become totally diseased, the larger older 4-runner V6 bolts right in this sucker, and i imagine someone like a lot of people on this forum would also run with that idea and add a Truck transmission and make this thing RWD. All the parts available at your local u-pull-it for probably not that much money. I know i can get the motor for about $150.
Personally? I'd be happy with a FWD huge turblow 3vzfe sitting in this thing. The 3vzfe is an overbuilt monster.
I've been trying to resist building a Camry for years. I doubt i'll be able to resist much longer.
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Oct. 29, 2009 9:10 a.m. dean1484 Dork
North of the Mason Dixon line camrys seem to just dissolve before you eyes due to rust. You are hard pressed to find an older one. I have driven several over the years. A very nicely appointed appliance was the feeling I got. I also kind of had that "i need to make a shower" feeling as well. It was kind of creepy.
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Oct. 29, 2009 9:34 a.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork
dean1484 wrote:
North of the Mason Dixon line camrys seem to just dissolve before you eyes due to rust. You are hard pressed to find an older one. I have driven several over the years. A very nicely appointed appliance was the feeling I got. I also kind of had that "i need to make a shower" feeling as well. It was kind of creepy.
Oh yes... they ARE appliances, don't get me wrong. But they're pretty hilarious and handle surprisingly well with a nice suspension, and the V6 models aren't that underpowered.
It's more for the hilarity, though. I'd never try to make one nice, or make it a real project car. Just a hootin' hollerin' tire shredder.
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Oct. 29, 2009 2:01 p.m. itsarebuild New Reader
sweet list! unless i missed something, it looks like we get to be the first fiat spider 124 to enter. whether that is by design or luck is yet to be seen.
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Oct. 29, 2009 3:48 p.m. eastsidemav Reader
AFAIK, the list is now accurate, as far as total entries are concerned. Obviously, some cars are counted multiple times. However, I do wonder sometimes. I thought I'd seen an X1/9 there before, but it could've been a spectators car. I also could swear I saw a 86-89 Integra at the 06 or 07 event, but its not in the list, so I must have been hallucinating.
As for Camrys in the rust belt - my next door neighbor just bought one that looks like the one in the picture, with the V6, for $1000. Only a little rust through starting on the rear wheel wells. There's still a few of them up here.
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Oct. 29, 2009 4:15 p.m. John Brown MegaDork
Remember if the entrant is now buried under Margies patio the car will not likely be listed in the spotters guide.
