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  • BoxheadTim

    Jan. 27, 2012 5:39 p.m. BoxheadTim SuperDork

    Without disassembling or anything, just by looking at the transmission?

    My search has turned up a Turbodiesel Suburban locally but it's a 1500, not the 2500. The latter definitely has the 4L80E trans but I don't know if the 1500 got it when equipped with the 6.5. Is there an easy way to tell?

  • 16vCorey

    Jan. 27, 2012 5:50 p.m. 16vCorey SuperDork

    All diesels had the 4L80E.

  • BoxheadTim

    Jan. 27, 2012 6:07 p.m. BoxheadTim SuperDork

    Thanks, that's good news indeed.

  • curtis73

    Jan. 27, 2012 8:29 p.m. curtis73 SuperDork

    16vCorey wrote:

    All diesels had the 4L80E.

    I used to think the same thing... Early 1/2 ton 6.5T's had the 700r4.

    Easiest way to tell is pan shape.

    4L80E is shaped like a rectangle with two corners lopped off and 17 bolts.

    700r4/4L60/4L60E is pretty much square with a couple irregularities and 16 bolts.

  • Jan. 27, 2012 9:47 p.m. Knurled Dork

    Aside from the pan difference: If you are familiar at all with what a 700-R4 / 4L60 looks like... you'll know a 4L80 when you see it. It's friggin' HUGE.

  • BoxheadTim

    Jan. 27, 2012 10:12 p.m. BoxheadTim SuperDork

    It's a 99 so it wouldn't have 700r4, right?

  • novaderrik

    Jan. 27, 2012 10:30 p.m. novaderrik Dork

    BoxheadTim wrote:

    It's a 99 so it wouldn't have 700r4, right?

    nothing had a 700r4 after about 1992 or so..

  • Jan. 27, 2012 10:49 p.m. Knurled Dork

    Same unit, basically, mostly just a new name. By the time they started messing around with the case, it was long after the name change, and the conversion to electronic control.

  • curtis73

    Jan. 28, 2012 2:18 a.m. curtis73 SuperDork

    novaderrik wrote:

    BoxheadTim wrote:

    It's a 99 so it wouldn't have 700r4, right?

    nothing had a 700r4 after about 1992 or so..

    Correct. By 99 all of the 700r4/4L60s had become 4L60E's. And by that time, all of the diesels did use the 4L80E with the minor exception of Medium-Duty trucks like step vans and some box trucks which still used the TH400.

    If you go back to 93-ish, the diesels used 700r4's or 400's.

    Just print this out and take it with you: http://transmissiontechnologies.com/gm-transmission-pan-shapes.aspx

    Just know that starting in 2001, any of the HD (3/4 ton and up) trucks... gas or diesel... could have the Allison 1000.

 
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