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  • procainestart

    Jan. 30, 2012 12:13 a.m. procainestart Dork

    Had a jack slip off a rear, central jacking point and onto the (plastic) fuel tank (Saab). Tank is not ruptured but is caved in somewhat. How would you pop this back out? Can I use compressed air? I'd rather not drop the whole thing if I can help it, but it looks like I could do this, then maybe pop it out with a board or something via the hole for the top-mounted fuel pump. A used tank is tough because the yards puncture them to drain fuel.

    Thanks for your sage advice.

  • Woody

    Jan. 30, 2012 5:05 a.m. Woody SuperDork

    Don't use compressed air. You'll also be compressing and heating fuel vapor. Bad idea.

  • JoeyM

    Jan. 30, 2012 5:27 a.m. JoeyM SuperDork

    drop the tank (sorry)

  • Ian F

    Jan. 30, 2012 5:36 a.m. Ian F SuperDork

    How badly is it caved in? Plastic tends to fail the more it is "worked" so if it's not leaking, I'd leave it for now and start looking for a replacement. If you try to pop it back, the chances of it leaking are fairly high.

  • jrw1621

    Jan. 30, 2012 6:23 a.m. jrw1621 SuperDork

    What are the consequences of doing nothing?
    My guess is that it is still holding fuel, just in a slightly different shape. Is it leaking or at risk of leaking?

  • 44Dwarf

    Jan. 30, 2012 7:01 a.m. 44Dwarf Dork

    Go fill up the tank and head down a bumpy road. At 6.04lbs per gallon slamming the bottom should push it out even better if its hot where you are.

  • N Sperlo

    Jan. 30, 2012 7:05 a.m. N Sperlo SuperDork

    Congratulations. Its the perfect time to switch over to a lightweight fuel cell!

  • Jan. 30, 2012 7:05 a.m. Knurled Dork

    As long as you didn't damage the fuel module, I'd not worry about it.

  • HappyAndy

    Jan. 30, 2012 7:24 a.m. HappyAndy HalfDork

    Is the area near the dent smooth enough for a suction cup? HF sells cheepie versions of the lever action suction cups that glass workers use. Or, as someone else already said, if its working normally just leave it alone.

  • Jan. 30, 2012 7:36 a.m. fasted58 SuperDork

    a pound or few of air pressure max should pop it back, don't get nutso w/ the pressure, remember it's lbs/ sq. inch of surface area, don't wanna damage pump or lines

  • mad_machine

    Jan. 30, 2012 8:37 a.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    I agree with the "leave it be" crowd. you probably lost a gallon of capacity, tops. Saabs have huge tanks anyway, so I doubt you are going to miss it.

    Consider it a fuel savings device

  • procainestart

    Jan. 30, 2012 9:25 a.m. procainestart Dork

    Thanks for the responses. I think I'll let it be for now, and see if some fuel (and warmer weather) don't pop it out.

  • Taiden

    Jan. 30, 2012 9:30 a.m. Taiden SuperDork

    Just run it, who cares!

  • ebonyandivory

    Jan. 30, 2012 9:45 a.m. ebonyandivory New Reader

    Can you get under there with a propane torch and just soften up the dent? What could go wrong?

  • Taiden

    Jan. 30, 2012 10:16 a.m. Taiden SuperDork

    Actually, just cut out the piece with a pilot arc plasma cutter and stick weld in a new section.

  • Hocrest

    Jan. 30, 2012 10:29 a.m. Hocrest HalfDork

    Have you ever seen a tire seated on a rim by spraying in starting fluid and lighting a match???

    Wait until the tank is almost empty, it will have lots of vapor. Toss in a match and that dent will no longer be bothering you...

  • mad_machine

    Jan. 30, 2012 11:07 a.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    Taiden wrote:

    Actually, just cut out the piece with a pilot arc plasma cutter and stick weld in a new section.

    hard to do with plastic

  • GTwannaB

    Jan. 30, 2012 1:18 p.m. GTwannaB Reader

    I don't know how the fuel gauge works in your car, but when I dented the gas tank on my old Monte Carlo the gas gauge would never read below half a tank. I thought I was getting amazing mileage until I ran out of gas.

  • Taiden

    Jan. 30, 2012 2:47 p.m. Taiden SuperDork

    mad_machine wrote:

    Taiden wrote:

    Actually, just cut out the piece with a pilot arc plasma cutter and stick weld in a new section.

    hard to do with plastic

    Shall I respectfully remind you which forum you are on?

  • mad_machine

    Jan. 30, 2012 5:04 p.m. mad_machine SuperDork

    I would pay money to see somebody stick weld plastic.. and I am not talking melting plastic sticks to weld

  • Taiden

    Jan. 30, 2012 5:27 p.m. Taiden SuperDork

    I bet if you made some weird material out of iron filings and plastic you could figure out how to make it work. Would probably cost millions to develop though.

  • irish44j

    Jan. 30, 2012 5:55 p.m. irish44j Dork

    My e30's fuel tank has a nice big dent in it not far from the rear jacking point. Either someone went over a curb, or someone didn't put the lift arms in the right spot, lol...

  • PeefoDaftronic

    Jan. 30, 2012 5:57 p.m. PeefoDaftronic None

    http://www.harborfreight.com/plastic-welding-kit-with-adjustable-temperature-96464.html

  • MG Bryan

    Jan. 30, 2012 5:58 p.m. MG Bryan Dork

    Taiden wrote:

    I bet if you made some weird material out of iron filings and plastic you could figure out how to make it work. Would probably cost millions to develop though.

    I vaguely recall 3m or some such company offering conductive polymers with stranded steel added to them. Not sure how you would adapt it to welding, but I'm also not willing to say it can't be done.

  • amiller34

    Jan. 30, 2012 9:23 p.m. amiller34 New Reader

    Hot glue something into the middle of the dent that you can get a grip on to pull it out. Razor knife your "handle" off when done, metal L bracket to clamp vice grips onto works well.

    Although I agree that it may be best to leave it alone as it could fatigue and create a leak pulling it out.

 
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