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  • Petroboy

    Jan. 24, 2009 1:24 a.m. Petroboy New Reader

    Hey fellas!

    I just recently bought a '99 XJ and have limited funds left for a set of badly needed tires. I'm going to stick with the stock size (225/75/R15). So my question is this, what reccomendations do you guys have for all-terrain tires that meet the following criteria:

    Bang-per-buck- Price is important, but I don't want to "settle" for anything only to replace them prematurely because I was too cheap in the first place.

    Ice and snow capabilities- Please I don't want anybody hassling me that nothing can beat a good set of winter tires-I agree- I'm thinking about that odd snowfall that catches me between seasons.

    Decent off roading capabilities- As far as all terrain tires go, anyway.

    Some tires I've been considering: BFG A/Ts (I'd feel a little silly not to consider them, but they seem kinda pricey?), General Tire Grabber AT2, and the Toyo M-55.

    Thanks in advance for any advice!

    -PB

  • ignorant

    Jan. 24, 2009 7:55 a.m. ignorant PowerDork

    will you really take it offorad? Or do you want the look?

    anyway..

    kumho or procomp or toyo. ... both made some cheap tires...

  • jamscal

    Jan. 24, 2009 8:10 a.m. jamscal HalfDork

    I don't know about price offhand, but I like the Yokohama Geolanders.

  • JFX001

    Jan. 24, 2009 8:13 a.m. JFX001 HalfDork

    I have read great reviews regarding the Bridgestone Revo's, which is what I'll be putting on my Land Cruiser this Spring.

  • Rob_Mopar

    Jan. 24, 2009 8:58 a.m. Rob_Mopar New Reader

    We put Kumho Road Venture AT's on my wife's Wrangler a little over a year ago. They have held up well. More street than off road but that's how this Jeep is used.

    I just put some Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ Plus' on my Ram. Ive used several Mickeys in the past on my Dakota and the Jeep (only a mudder was available in the size we needed in a Mickey when we got the last set of Jeep tires).

    The Ram had the BFG Rugged Trail T/As on it when I got it. I wasn't overly impressed with them before, then lost two on the way to work last week and ordered the Mickeys.

    -Rob

  • Keith

    Jan. 24, 2009 10:13 a.m. Keith UltraDork

    I run Kumhos on the Grand Cherokee (sorry, not cool enough to know the chassis code). They work nicely for street use. I've run the BFG ATs in the past on one of my trucks and it's a good all-arounder, but expensive and more than you need if the truck never really goes offroad.

  • bamalama

    Jan. 24, 2009 1:27 p.m. bamalama New Reader

    derekshannon wrote:

    WalMart carries some very cheap all terrain tires.

    Check them out first.

    Those are what I run. They're Uniroyals or something, I don't remember right now. I've had two sets on two different vehicles and was out the door for about 300 bucks.

  • Run_Away

    Jan. 24, 2009 2:06 p.m. Run_Away New Reader

    I was recently looking for an all-terrain tire with excellent snow/ice capability for my pathfinder. There's snow on the ground half of the year around here so that was my biggest deciding factor. I went with these: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+S...

    Although I was pretty close to getting a set of these: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Grabber+AT+2 Because they're much cheaper (copy of the BFG A/T more or less) but still very good.

    Both are severe winter service rated, depending on size.

  • jgp1843

    Jan. 24, 2009 2:12 p.m. jgp1843 HalfDork

    I've used Yoko Geolandar AT II on my Toyota 4WD pickup and liked them - they have been replaced by a new tread design that is less aggressive, I have no experience with them. I have the Kumho ATs on my Liberty now, and they work well on the highway and seem relatively rugged off-highway, but they are about half worn now and don't look like they would work too well in the snow or mud right now (I have a set of Blizzaks for the winter for the Jeep, and studded WinterForces for the Toyota - but I'm in snow and ice all the time). Lots of people really like the General Grabber AT2s as being like the BFG ATs for considerably less money. I may go that way when the Kumhos wear out. Revos also have a great reputation, but ain't cheap.

    I used to really like Armstrong Norseman radials, but it became hard to find dealers - I don't even know whether these are still available.

  • Xceler8x

    Jan. 24, 2009 6:45 p.m. Xceler8x HalfDork

    derekshannon is on the right track. Walmart has some tire called the Wilderness A/T that worked great on an Exploder I had years ago. Very reasonable price.

  • Woody

    Jan. 24, 2009 7:57 p.m. Woody Dork

    Without recommending a specific brand, if you want to stick with the stock size, look for a set of takeoffs.

    In the Jeep world, it's incredibly common to buy a new Jeep and immediately add a lift and bigger wheels and tires. I bought a set of FIVE alloys with nearly new Goodyears for $250 and a set of four new steel takeoff rims with center caps but no tires for $40.

    Check out: http://www.jeepforum.com/

  • Trans_Maro

    Jan. 24, 2009 9:22 p.m. Trans_Maro Reader

    Fisk makes tires called "Sport Kings" They're made using the old BFG A/T molds.

    They work great, wear like iron and don't cost a fortune.

    I run them on all my trucks and I've never had a problem. Had them on my IHC Scout, 4-runner, Jeep Gladiator and now on my F-150. I've put 180,000 kms on a set and not worn them out.

    Best bang for the buck in a truck tire that I've ever seen.

    Links: http://www1.epinions.com/reviews/Fisk_Sport_King_A_T_Truck_SUV_Tire http://www.yotatech.com/f2/sport-king-t-46819/ http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190205

    Shawn

  • ManofFewWords

    Jan. 24, 2009 10:21 p.m. ManofFewWords Reader

    I recently scored a set of 31" Michelins for my XJ off of a local (CT) Jeep forum. Less than 2k miles with wrangler rims for $150.

  • wcelliot

    Jan. 26, 2009 11:26 a.m. wcelliot Reader

    Revos are my AT tire of choice... exceptional in mud and snow, very good on dry pavement, better than most on wet pavement, and nice ride. Only medicore ice traction (common with all AT tires) is a disappointment.

    Recently I was told that the Fusion AT is actually a Revo with a different tread design and a 50% lower price, so I bought a set for my Avalanche. Cheapest option available and so far they have been a very good buy. In retrospect I should have gone to an LT tire (available in Revo, NA in Fusion) because the handling is a little "squishier" than I prefer (especially when loaded), but the ride is very good. In a Jeep I think the P tires would be fine...

    Bill

  • ignorant

    Jan. 26, 2009 11:36 a.m. ignorant PowerDork

    Woody wrote:

    Without recommending a specific brand, if you want to stick with the stock size, look for a set of takeoffs.

    In the Jeep world, it's incredibly common to buy a new Jeep and immediately add a lift and bigger wheels and tires. I bought a set of FIVE alloys with nearly new Goodyears for $250 and a set of four new steel takeoff rims with center caps but no tires for $40.

    Check out: http://www.jeepforum.com/

    +amillionbazillion... Just check the tires out for cuts and beat up bits.. i've done this before and it works like a charm. Jeep people always want to upsize.

    http://treadwright.com/default.aspx <--- they used to be Hi-tec retread .. search ANY forum for them and you will find many many positive reviews A ton of good things said about them. Really.

    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2718201

  • miatame2

    Jan. 26, 2009 12:07 p.m. miatame2 New Reader

    I personally think GY Wranglers suck.

    I've owned four XJs and been through several different tires. I loved the old school Pirelli Scorpion ATs and STs, but not sure of the current line. For a boring DD Wilderness ATs aren't bad. My current personal favorite is the tried and true BFG AT. Awesome winter tire, fairly quiet and controlled on the highway, supposedly goes for 40k miles, and isn't TOO expensive when on sale at Sears.

    I've heard great things about the General Grabber AT2 but never had them. I hear they are thin so offroading on rocks could be out.

  • jgp1843

    Jan. 26, 2009 1:56 p.m. jgp1843 HalfDork

    The thing to be careful about regarding Goodyear Warnglers is that there are several different types of Wranglers. The OEM tires (like the Wrangler ST that came on my Liberty) are possibly the worst tires ever made -check the owners reviews on Tire Rack. As one of the characters says in the original text version of Stroker Ace, "Hell, them thangs ain't safe in your driveway!" You can almost see daylight through the sidewalls. A stock size ST weighs around 29 pounds, while the same size in most AT-type tires weighs somewhere around 36 -39 pounds - that says something right there. I knew this before I bought the Libby and immediately garage saled them and put on some decent tires.

    That said, the upper level Wranglers, like the mud versions, I forget the actual designation - MT-Rs? have a very good reputation. I'd say to read the Tire Rack reccommendations, considering the vehicles used and types of driving, before making a purchase. Revos, Geolandars, BFG ATs are all good, reliable tires - and others are good, too. But avoid OEM AT tires if you can.

    As a final note, I have covered a lot of off-highway miles in relatively tough conditions in Colorado, Utah, New Mexico and Nevada, and have only destroyed three tires in 25 years - all three were cheap-level Wranglers on other people's Jeeps, and all three were being driven carefully on moderate trails at the time. All three ripped holes in the sidewalls big enough to stick three fingers into - on trails I have driven many times without trouble on Geolandars, Duelers, BFG Mud Tarrains, and Norsemans. 'Nuff said.

  • ReverendDexter

    Jan. 26, 2009 3:32 p.m. ReverendDexter Reader

    Do you have a good sense of tread patterns?

    I've found some of the best tires simply by walking into my local tire shop and checking out what they had in stock. You'd be surprised what sort of stuff you can find that's totally off-brand.

    I've only been bit by this once, when I didn't see that a tire was single-ply sidewall until I got it home.

  • Jan. 26, 2009 3:37 p.m. NoBrakesRacing New Reader

    I recently purchase some BF Goodrich Long Trail Touring for my 99 xj and really like them, but I do not do any off road (wish there was some close by) other than dirt roads etc. They seem very well built.

    Purchased them on tire rack at a great price, otherwise they have them at discount tire for $93 http://tinyurl.com/dkapnt

    Had the Pathfinders all terrain (made by good year) on my suburban and they wore very well and did use it on all kinds of terrain, almost like an BG A/T but a bit less aggressive.

    $103 at discount http://tinyurl.com/bx22pg Had just purchased a second set when wrecked the sub.

    The uniroyals at walmart were also very tempting for the xj.

    Good luck

    Javier

  • ignorant

    Jan. 26, 2009 4:25 p.m. ignorant PowerDork

    http://www.cherokeeforum.com/showthread.php?t=5388

  • v6spitfire

    Jan. 26, 2009 10:34 p.m. v6spitfire None

    I've sold many tires over the years to many different people. Everyone has, and is intitled to an opion regardign what works, what doesn't, whats too expensive and what is a good deal.

    The Walmart tires are not a true Goodyear product. They are a second line source from Goodyear Global Distribution. The Yoko Geolanders I've sold always have come back a little later with vibration issues. The BFG All Terrains over excellent traction, but are a little too aggresive if most of what your doing is pavement.

    Take a look at a Firestone Destination A/T. Look at some of the tire sites such at www.tirerack.com or www.1010tires.com. Read the product reviews. From what you have stated, I think they may be a good choice budget and performance wise.

  • Petroboy

    Feb. 5, 2009 6:03 p.m. Petroboy New Reader

    Thanks everyone for the advice! In the end I bought some 235/75/R15 BFG A/Ts at Costco for something like $180cdn. So far they're working out nicely.

    Thanks again!

    -PB

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  • Woody

    June 19, 2009 9:13 a.m. Woody SuperDork

    JeepAccessories wrote:

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