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  • Jan. 10, 2010 7:29 p.m. MissL

    audifan wrote:

    audifan wrote:

    DukeOfUndersteer wrote:

    hmmm... an ex-F1 World Champion vs. a shoe salesman...

    yeah my money is on the shoe salesman

    If for nothing else when he speaks he does not sound like "Beaker" from the muppets. I mean Kimi is talented and a good driver but he has the presence of a wet mop, Ken is no Schumacher either but at least he has a pulse and a heartbeat. Kimi's "iceman" nickname has not really done him any good so far in WRC events he has driven he is used to traction, fat rubber on asphalt not skinny to medium rubber or dirt strewn questionable terrain.
    I believe he has crashed twice maybe three times in as many events. He is almost as good at crashing as that young russian kid. He is by no means doing his country justice in the WRC

    Kimi has a lot of presence and a lot of fans, red bull have obviously felt that his presence is enough to make a huge investment into his rally outing. It is rumoured that he will be earning more then Loeb next year. Kimi is quite obviously not the world's most eloquent speaker, but he does have a honest and daring approach that many people find intriguing, he is also quite good looking which helps in the marketing department and of course he is also a very good driver. He is one of the drivers with the largest fan bases in F1. He did crash twice (and continued after one of those crashes), but it should also be remembered that those events are his only experience at rallying. With little, too absolutely no experience, he was already matching and beating some of the established rally drivers who have driven in rally cars for most of their lives and he was on for a class podium in rally Finland. That in itself are pretty amazing. He will properly crash a lot, but he will properly also be fast. Kimi is already a F1 champion, so anything he achieves in WRC is merely a bonus, he can always just go back to F1 if he really struggles in WRC. As for his country; Finland already have lots of fantastic WRC drivers. Most people properly dont expect too much from him. The most people can properly expect, is lots of crashes, and some of Kimi's trademark speed and car control. But I wouldn't be surprised if Kimi is indeed faster then Block. http://en.redbulletin.com/articles/kimi/

    As for Block I wish him good luck. He will properly need a bit of time to adapt to WRC (just like Kimi).

    It is fantastic to see two new superstars in WRC. They are very different and properly complete opposites in many ways, but they are both stars in their own right. It should make for an interesting competition.

  • Jamesc2123

    Jan. 10, 2010 7:44 p.m. Jamesc2123 Reader

    There's only like 15 cars running in the top class of the WRC anyway, so as long as Block can stay on the road and beat the much lower funded privateers, he'll be fighting for a top ten. Not that it matters much, since the only people who win are Loeb and Hirvonen. Seriously, In the last two years the have been TWO rallies won by other drivers.

    So it will be cool to watch Block in the WRC, but don't hold your breath for much competition, from him or anyone else...

  • Adrian_Thompson

    Jan. 11, 2010 8:54 a.m. Adrian_Thompson Reader

    sachilles wrote:

    I think the goal is to campaign a full season in the WRC. If that is the case, he'd be the first American to accomplish that. Others have competed in a WRC events on a limited basis.

    You have to rememebr that back when Buffman was running very few people ran the full series, even the factory teams and drivers would pick what events would suit them and their cars and pick and choose accordingly. I'm really happy Ken's doing it, but I in no way consider him the first American to make a serious effort in the WRC

  • Matt B

    Jan. 11, 2010 12:02 p.m. Matt B Reader

    DukeOfUndersteer wrote:

    hmmm... an ex-F1 World Champion vs. a shoe salesman...

    This guy?

    Kidding aside - count me as a "Plus One" for the possible increase in WRC media coverage. Maybe even NascarTV will deign to air WRC events again? One can hope against hope. . .

  • Keith

    Jan. 11, 2010 12:23 p.m. Keith PowerDork

    The WRC website says that Block is the first American to "make a multi-year commitment to the series". That's probably a fair statement.

    I guess we'll find out how quick they are in a month or so in Sweden! Block is being realistic about his chances, viewing this as a building year. Between Block and Kimi, there should be a lot more new WRC fans this year.

  • HiTempguy

    Jan. 11, 2010 2:00 p.m. HiTempguy Reader

    Keith wrote:

    I guess we'll find out how quick Kimi is in a month or so in Sweden! Block is being realistic about his chances, viewing this as a building year. Between Block and Kimi, there should be a lot more new WRC fans this year.

    Fixed that for ya.

  • Keith

    Jan. 11, 2010 5:00 p.m. Keith PowerDork

    I don't think Kimi's going to be a factor for at least a year, even if he is Finnish

  • HiTempguy

    Jan. 11, 2010 7:35 p.m. HiTempguy Reader

    Keith wrote:

    I don't think Kimi's going to be a factor for at least a year, even if he is Finnish

    And Block won't be a factor in Sweden, as he won't be there! His debut is in Mexico, mang.

    I still feel you guys are going a little hard on the dude. He is fast (in North America) and the competition isn't THAT stiff to get into the top 10. I still believe he'll be as fast (if not faster) than Matt Wilson in his first outing. Considering Matt is 1) young and 2) been doing this for what, 3 years now? I believe that means something if you can beat him.

  • Keith

    Jan. 12, 2010 12:24 a.m. Keith PowerDork

    Wilson actually first raced in the WRC in 2004, although he's only been a regular driver for four full seasons now. If he didn't have a certain father, he should have been turfed off the Ford team last year and replaced with Petter Solberg. I think Petter will keep the pressure on the top guys this year, and it would not surprise me to see him on top of the podium.

    There are a lot of national rally champions who have to work pretty hard to get into the top 10. Will Block be one of them? I dunno. I think the WRC is a far deeper pool than North American rallying, as Pastrana has discovered. The comparison with Wilson is an interesting one, there's some validity there.

    But like I've said a few times, if Block's participation gets more people interested in WRC, I'm all for it.

  • HiTempguy

    Jan. 12, 2010 7:16 p.m. HiTempguy Reader

    And in case anybody wants Ken's view on the subject (I'm sure you've already watched this Keith):

    http://www.drivingsports.com/site/2010/01/ken-block-interview-part-3-wrc-rally/

  • RedS13Coupe

    Jan. 14, 2010 4:06 a.m. RedS13Coupe Reader

    HiTempguy wrote:

    And in case anybody wants Ken's view on the subject (I'm sure you've already watched this Keith):

    http://www.drivingsports.com/site/2010/01/ken-block-interview-part-3-wrc-rally/

    Yeah, ken for sure seems like a good guy.

    As much hate as he gets, its not really meant for him more for his marketing. Its nothing we all wouldn't do in his position.

    He seems to be very realistic about the whole thing.

    Once he starts in Mexico, is he in for the rest of the season?

  • maroon92

    Jan. 14, 2010 7:40 a.m. maroon92 UberDork

    This season is limited, like they are running half of the events.

    Next season, they plan to run the full series.

  • bamalama

    Jan. 14, 2010 8:20 a.m. bamalama Reader

    Matt B wrote:

    Maybe even NascarTV will deign to air WRC events again?

    Won't happen. Danica has a partial Nationwide schedule this year, so that's all they'll cover.

  • DukeOfUndersteer

    Jan. 26, 2010 11:55 a.m. DukeOfUndersteer SuperDork

    Hitler finds out about Ken Block driving a Ford

  • Carson

    Jan. 26, 2010 10:27 p.m. Carson Dork

    For those who are interested:

    http://flatovercrest.com/2010/01/ken-block-fiesta-official-video-pics/

    My only thoughts are good luck, I'll be watching, and please, please, put down the florescent bulb!

  • Carson

    Jan. 26, 2010 10:33 p.m. Carson Dork

    Coool! I didn't realise this is the same car:

    http://www.rallybuzz.com/block-fiesta-ready-for-sno-drift/ said:

    The red, white and blue colored OMSE Fiesta that Marcus Gronholm drove up Pikes Peak last summer has been transformed into a black and green monster that will be driven in Rally America by the American Ken Block.

    Sorry if that was already mentioned earlier.

  • RedS13Coupe

    Jan. 27, 2010 2:34 a.m. RedS13Coupe Reader

    Carson wrote: and please, please, put down the florescent bulb!

    Yes, then run it over in SUPER SLOW MO! (wait, don't do that either)

    Can't wait for the rally season to get started again. I tried watching IRC since its started already... But it turns out it is impossible to find a place to watch it, beyond 3 minute youtube clips. (Currently accepting PM's if anyone has any input on that one... would still like to watch both)

    Will be cool to see how he does. I wish him luck (though I think he will need it). I really hope that WRC doesn't just chew him up and spit him out when he can't run in the points consistently.

    I am going to have to go find the clip of Gronholm now, hadn't heard he did that.

  • 4eyes

    Jan. 28, 2010 12:36 a.m. 4eyes Reader

    Carson wrote:

    For those who are interested:

    http://flatovercrest.com/2010/01/ken-block-fiesta-official-video-pics/

    My only thoughts are good luck, I'll be watching, and please, please, put down the florescent bulb!

    ZOMG!!! I WANT THAT CAR!!!

  • HiTempguy

    Jan. 30, 2010 10:28 a.m. HiTempguy Reader

    Block out with suspension failure on stage 7 of the Sno*Drift rally. It sounds like he went off, but reports are iffy on why it broke. I'm sure everyone at Ford is like "FML" right now (where is the head hitting wall smilie when you need it)?!

  • Carson

    Jan. 30, 2010 11:15 a.m. Carson Dork

    Didn't a suspension failure knock him out of SS1 in Rallye Defi last year in the Escort MKII? Track record isn't looking so great so far in (non-Subaru) blue ovals. I hope that changes for him.

  • Buzz Killington

    Jan. 30, 2010 1:32 p.m. Buzz Killington Reader

    i think will be a learning year for Kimi, but i will be surprised if he doesn't catch up pretty quickly. he is far too talented of a driver to be an also-ran for very long in any series.

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