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thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago SuperDork
5/8/17 9:10 p.m.

I'm soon to be in a position to buy a new (to me) car and my gaze is currently fixed on the C6. Specifically the Z51 cars with the HUD and a 6-speed. No automatics. These options seems uncommon together. Adding to this is the fact that I really like white or silver with a red interior. How rare is that combo? Does it even exist?

Also, what kinds of things should I be looking out for? What sort of advice can the hive provide?

My budget is 15-20k so that rules out the Grand Sports, as sweet as they are.

turtl631
turtl631 Reader
5/9/17 2:38 a.m.

I have a C6Z. I'm not a domestic car kinda guy, started with Nissan 240SXs and have dabbled with other German and Japanese cars... But the C6 is great. Comfy commuter, HUD is really nice, weight and power are delightful. I've been impressed and I'm bummed I have to sell mine due to incoming baby. Only failure was solenoid for dual mode exhaust, easy fix.

Rodan
Rodan Reader
5/9/17 8:07 a.m.

My experience was the opposite. '05 C6 Z51, manual 6sp. First year for C6. Bought it at 48k miles, sold it at 57k. Beautiful car, and wonderful when everything worked. Unfortunately, that wasn't very often. $2000 in parts and special tools in 8k miles keeping it on the road. Would have been double if I hadn't done the work myself. Interior plastic is crap, electrical connectors are crap. Shoddy assembly and some stupid engineering decisions that made it more difficult to work on than it needed to be. Problems included numerous electrical issues, water pump failures (car was on it's 3rd GM pump at 50k), timing chain gear came loose (!). I didn't even get to some of the really expensive stuff. Replacement parts and aftermarket stuff is expensive.

I still think the car was just a lemon, but every problem I encountered was well documented on the 'Vette forums...

YMMV

Blaise
Blaise New Reader
5/9/17 8:24 a.m.

Price is real close on an 08+ to the earlier models. Hold out for an LS3 :)

That being said, what really exists in this price range if you DONT want a c6? e46 m3 or an older cayman maybe?

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe UltraDork
5/9/17 8:49 a.m.

Personally I think the Grand Sport C6 is the sweat spot especially in the convertible. Worth the extra money and will have much better resale. Asking prices are all over the place as you are aware I am sure. Just keep a lookout. Personally I think that are a screaming deal right now.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
5/9/17 8:52 a.m.

Didn't the C6 have an interior upgrade option that significantly improved the fit and finish? Any word on how well that package has held up over the years?

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago SuperDork
5/9/17 9:37 a.m.

In reply to Blaise:

Yeah, you pretty much nailed the other options with the exception of the 996. As cool as they are, each scares me off with the amount of maintenance they require.

Sonic
Sonic SuperDork
5/9/17 9:51 a.m.

If you stretch your budget just a little a Z4M coupe is right up the same alley.

Javelin
Javelin MegaDork
5/9/17 9:57 a.m.

I'd rather buy the world's nicest 05-06 GTO. The interior is far and beyond better than the C6, it's rarer, it's just as fast especially in the corners, and it's screwed together way better. Not too mention silver on red is rad looking on them.

I've driven a few C6's, and they just don't impress me. Look into the failures, and there are a lot of them.

Blaise
Blaise New Reader
5/9/17 10:12 a.m.

It is more rare, and isn't that especially rough for parts cost now that OzGM is done for?

dculberson
dculberson PowerDork
5/9/17 10:39 a.m.
Javelin wrote: I'd rather buy the world's nicest 05-06 GTO. The interior is far and beyond better than the C6, it's rarer, it's just as fast especially in the corners, and it's screwed together way better. Not too mention silver on red is rad looking on them. I've driven a few C6's, and they just don't impress me. Look into the failures, and there are a lot of them.

Just as fast?? The GTO has the same engine as the Corvette but weighs 500 pounds more.

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago SuperDork
5/9/17 10:52 a.m.

In reply to Javelin:

I like GTOs but the fact that you can't fit decently sized tires on them really turns me off. 265s are a joke on a 400 hp car.

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
5/9/17 11:09 a.m.

I'm a big fan of the C6, but I'd hold out for a Z06, or a Grand Sport. I only wish I could get the C7 interior in a C6. I prefer the looks of the older car, but the C7's interior is a pretty big step up.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
5/9/17 11:21 a.m.
dculberson wrote:
Javelin wrote: I'd rather buy the world's nicest 05-06 GTO. The interior is far and beyond better than the C6, it's rarer, it's just as fast especially in the corners, and it's screwed together way better. Not too mention silver on red is rad looking on them. I've driven a few C6's, and they just don't impress me. Look into the failures, and there are a lot of them.

Just as fast?? The GTO has the same engine as the Corvette but weighs 500 pounds more.

And it looks like the homely girl no one asked to prom.

Mad_Ratel
Mad_Ratel Dork
5/9/17 11:57 a.m.
Javelin wrote: I'd rather buy the world's nicest 05-06 GTO. The interior is far and beyond better than the C6, it's rarer, it's just as fast especially in the corners, and it's screwed together way better. Not too mention silver on red is rad looking on them. I've driven a few C6's, and they just don't impress me. Look into the failures, and there are a lot of them.

not as fast and totaled at a parking lot scratch. the BCM's are NLA which means any airbag action totals the car. most parts are NLA, the interior seats unstitch themselves, you have the red lobster FPFQ guys...

(I'm a 10 year member of the ls1gto board...)

yupididit
yupididit Dork
5/9/17 4:03 p.m.

Double your budger and get a Z06

FuzzWuzzy
FuzzWuzzy New Reader
5/9/17 4:15 p.m.

In reply to Mad_Ratel:

Do you have some cheddar biscuits, by chance?

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago SuperDork
5/10/17 1:01 a.m.
yupididit wrote: Double your budger and get a Z06

Haha, I wish I could!

chaparral
chaparral Dork
5/10/17 8:08 a.m.

A C6 is a debugged C5. On an autocross course, it's a Miata that's a foot wider.

Zomby Woof
Zomby Woof PowerDork
5/10/17 8:48 a.m.

The red interior is an excellent choice to save you money. Practically nobody wants that red interior, and I've seen cars locally for sale for a long time, at lesser money than comparable black interior cars.

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago SuperDork
5/10/17 9:43 a.m.

In reply to Zomby Woof:

Well that's good to know. I assumed the opposite.

Lugnut
Lugnut Dork
5/10/17 10:11 a.m.

I love that red interior! I'd totally get a full red interior to swap into my black car.

Anyway, I just bought a black 2007 Z51 3LT manual coupe. I love it! I don't really get this "low rent interior" and "inferior plastics" thing everybody waves around. I know I probably sound like a Corvette apologist here, and that's fine, but, seriously, how often do you go driving and randomly pet your dashboard? For me, that's roughly... I dunno, never. Granted, there are cars with exceptional material quality, like the original Audi TT. Everything in that car did actually make you want to touch it, and the Corvette doesn't do that, but it's not like '78 Monte Carlo Landau bad plastics. (My parents had TWO of these beauties.) From a visual standpoint, I don't think the plastic on the dash of the Corvette looks all that different from the plastic on the dash of my 997, except the Corvette dash is slightly shinier. /shrug I dunno.

Anyway, autocross-wise, it's a blast on good tires! I put RE71Rs on mine on the stock wheels and it's brilliant! My first time out in the car on a 48-degree rainy day and my first time autocrossing in something like 10 years had me 4th out of 19 in the non-Porsche class at the PCA autocross and 10th of 51 overall. The only cars that beat me were a couple driving a BUILT Z3 M Coupe and a single lucky run by an E90 M3, all three drivers have been autocrossing nonstop in those same cars for many years. It's really a joy to drive.

I've gotten to really like the convenience entry/start thing. I've never that that before. Not having to take your key out of your pocket to click the unlock or lock button or start the car is amazing!

The hatch area is capacious. The top is super easy to remove and install and has a nice, SECURED resting place in the hatch that doesn't eat up too much cargo space. All of this is leagues ahead of my old C4.

Parts are SO cheap. People constantly complain about the "Corvette tax" on parts, but, I mean, I picked up a set of factory split-spoke rims (18" and 19") for $240. TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY DOLLARS. I just paid $1,200 for a set of Porsche wide-body lobster claw wheels.

When it's running, make sure the harmonic balancer (okay, it's really a harmonic damper but that's not what everybody calls it) is nice and solid. Mine's wobbling (a common issue on LS2s, although my GTO never had it) and I need to replace it. And, erm, make sure your negative battery lead is nice and secure. When I bought my car it wasn't tightened down and it came off!

And on the comparison to the GTO... I had a 6-speed '05 6.0 that I bought brand new. Straight line grunt was, of course, similar - same engine, after all... But the GTO was portly. Let me also say, I loved that car. I had it for almost 5 years and I've never had a car anywhere close to that long before or since. But it was not brilliant at turning. The widest tire I could fit without rubbing, even on a stock suspension, was a 255 and for a 3500+lb car with 400hp, that's not sufficient. It was tremendous fun, but it wasn't what I'd call precise.

I wouldn't say the interior is far and beyond better than the C6. The silver plastic trim parts seem very similar to the dark gray plastic trim pieces in the Corvette and the glove box latches, center console, dash, door panels, all seemed very similar in feel and quality between both cars.

For whatever it's worth, I give the C6 my endorsement. It's great fun and I'm very happy I got one.

yupididit
yupididit Dork
5/10/17 10:27 a.m.
chaparral wrote: A C6 is a debugged C5. On an autocross course, it's a Miata that's a foot wider.

What does any of that mean? lol

Blaise
Blaise New Reader
5/10/17 10:36 a.m.
yupididit wrote:
chaparral wrote: A C6 is a debugged C5. On an autocross course, it's a Miata that's a foot wider.

What does any of that mean? lol

Debugged = most agree that the c6 is just like the c5 just better in every objective way.

miata but wider = means it handles well but it's wider. On a narrow course, it's easier navigate with a smaller car. On a road course it doesn't matter.

yupididit
yupididit Dork
5/10/17 10:40 a.m.

Ah okay.

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