I'm trying to find a copy of this Ferrari book. It came out in 1999, but it is no longer in print. If someone here happens to have one on their shelf, I would be interested in buying it.
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Nov. 24, 2011 11:41 a.m. Woody SuperDork
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Nov. 24, 2011 1:30 p.m. wearymicrobe HalfDork
Dude that's a heck of a expensive book.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Ferrari-V8-Keith-Bluemel-1998-Hardcover-/12056447...
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Nov. 24, 2011 2:24 p.m. chandlerGTi Reader
I have that on my shelf, but it isn't for sale. I didn't know they were that valuable.
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Nov. 24, 2011 4:46 p.m. aussiesmg SuperDork
Much less expensive yet not cheap
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Ferrari-V8-Keith-Bluemel-1998-Hardcover-/11072227...
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Nov. 24, 2011 4:58 p.m. stuart in mn SuperDork
Some new and used copies on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Original-Ferrari-Restoration-1974-1994-Mondial/dp/1870979788...
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Nov. 24, 2011 6:21 p.m. Woody SuperDork
Yes, I've seen those. A lot of people seem to be asking pretty high prices for it, but I seriously doubt that anyone is buying at that price.
I have a Ferrari V12 book from the same series and it's the same situation. It's out of print and I could offer it up at a huge price, but I suspect that it would go unsold. I might, however, consider swapping it for the V8 book although, ideally, I'd like to keep both for reference.
The thing is, I'm not looking for a collector's item or coffee table showpiece, I'm really interested in the information inside, not the condition of the book. I wouldn't care if it had been run over by a Ferrari. I'd even be happy with photocopies of a few sections.
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Nov. 24, 2011 6:22 p.m. Woody SuperDork
chandlerGTi wrote:
I have that on my shelf, but it isn't for sale. I didn't know they were that valuable.
I don't think that they are.
Wanna trade for the V12 book?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Ferrari-V12-1965-1973-Keith-Bluemel-199-/120613628282
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Nov. 24, 2011 6:28 p.m. stuart in mn SuperDork
The Amazon link allows you to preview a few pages inside the book, although those previews never seem to have the info you really want to see.
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Nov. 24, 2011 6:42 p.m. Woody SuperDork
stuart in mn wrote:
The Amazon link allows you to preview a few pages inside the book, although those previews never seem to have the info you really want to see.
Been there....
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Nov. 24, 2011 6:56 p.m. chandlerGTi Reader
Nah, I've got almost all of the "original..." series.
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Nov. 24, 2011 7:44 p.m. pigeon Dork
Try this guy: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=320544
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Nov. 24, 2011 7:59 p.m. Woody SuperDork
Yeah, I've seen that, too. I'm probably going to contact him.
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Nov. 24, 2011 8:24 p.m. mikeatrpi New Reader
OK, I'm onto you! Spill the beans. A few weeks ago you were asking about Ferrari's, and now you're back looking for more in-depth information. Did you buy that blue 308 (3-something-something) from the HV Craigslist a few months ago???
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Nov. 25, 2011 12:46 a.m. gamby SuperDork
Woody wrote:
chandlerGTi wrote:
I have that on my shelf, but it isn't for sale. I didn't know they were that valuable.
I don't think that they are.
Wanna trade for the V12 book?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Ferrari-V12-1965-1973-Keith-Bluemel-199-/120613628282
Holy CRAP has that gone up!!! (assuming it'll fetch that price). I bought mine for $40 at the Imperial Palace car collection in Vegas 2 years ago.
No intention of getting rid of it, though.
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Nov. 25, 2011 4:37 a.m. ZOO SuperDork
It's only slightly jerky to confirm that yes, you do have the unicorn someone is looking for, but no, you won't sell it
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Nov. 25, 2011 5:51 a.m. Luke SuperDork
I have several copies, myself, but I'm keeping them all for emergencies. Sorry
Perhaps some kind soul with a scanner could help you out.
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Nov. 25, 2011 6:39 a.m. Woody SuperDork
mikeatrpi wrote:
OK, I'm onto you! Spill the beans. A few weeks ago you were asking about Ferrari's, and now you're back looking for more in-depth information. Did you buy that blue 308 (3-something-something) from the HV Craigslist a few months ago???
I haven't bought anything other than a few books at this point.
Here's the deal: I've been doing some horse trading over the past few years, and it has put me into a fairly interesting position. I have a really nice 911 that has become somewhat redundant in the fleet. I love the car to death, but I might be willing make a change.
Growing up when I did, the 308 was the ultimate dream. That never went away, but I had kind of accepted the reality that it wasn't ever going to happen. But for a variety of reasons, the market has been soft on them for the past few years.
When I decided to fulfill my Porsche dreams a while back, I did what I always do: I researched the hell out of them. I felt that I knew the cars inside and out and I also knew about every car that came up for sale East of the Mississippi. It took me three years to find the right car, but when I did, I knew it and was able to make a smart purchase. I also knew that the cars had some critical trouble areas and I had to commit to the idea that, if I was going to spend a lot of money on an old car, I was going to have to commit to fixing it myself. Fortunately with 911s, the engine comes out easily. In the worst case scenario, I could at least get it into the back of my truck and haul it to a pro if necessary. And with the Porsche, they have been around so long that there is a crapton of information out there and a whole bunch of people who are able to help you through any issues.
With the Ferraris, the "Major Service" scares the crap out of both buyers and sellers. One thing I have gained from the Porsche experience is diminished fear of things mechanical. I think I'm ready to step up to Europe's next level of exotic complexity. I'm not afraid to spend a fairly big (but reasonable) chunk of change on a Ferrari and remove the engine myself. Don't get the impression that I'm looking for a fixer-upper, but I need to know what I'm looking at, aside from ludicrous parts prices. I'm just trying to have all the information ahead of time so that I can determine if this is feasible. I also have other stuff to drive and can live with the idea of staring at a beautiful, non running Ferrari in my garage for a while.
The problem with a car that was made in relatively limited numbers is that there are not a lot of guys out there doing stuff themselves. The book that I'm looking for is The One that I'm told has the information that I need.
I'd have to sell a car that I really love in order to make this happen, but it's not beyond my grasp at this point. I just need to go into this fully informed. Besides, when you're shopping in this end of the market, you also need to be well informed for sellers to take you seriously.
And, for the record, I spend more time searching Craigslist for sub $1k cars than I do for high end stuff. Jeeps with bad engines and broken transfer cases are my modern dream vehicles.
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Nov. 25, 2011 9:50 a.m. Keith SuperDork
Google books has it for sale as a ebook. It'll just be a scan, but there you go.
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Nov. 25, 2011 10:38 a.m. petegossett SuperDork
In reply to Woody:
I have a '66 Kaiser CJ with the original Buick V6 that's a project if you're interested!
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Nov. 25, 2011 1:20 p.m. Woody SuperDork
petegossett wrote:
In reply to Woody:
I have a '66 Kaiser CJ with the original Buick V6 that's a project if you're interested!
Buick V6s are awesome in Jeeps, but I only do TJs and Flatties.
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Nov. 25, 2011 1:21 p.m. Woody SuperDork
Keith wrote:
Google books has it for sale as a ebook. It'll just be a scan, but there you go.
I know nothing of EBooks. Can I read it on my laptop or would I have to buy an EBook reader?
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Nov. 25, 2011 1:24 p.m. stuart in mn SuperDork
I assume you know about Tom Yang's Ferrari board? He's mostly interested in older cars, but it may be a good place for finding contacts and information.
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Nov. 25, 2011 6:47 p.m. Keith SuperDork
Woody wrote:
Keith wrote:
Google books has it for sale as a ebook. It'll just be a scan, but there you go.
I know nothing of EBooks. Can I read it on my laptop or would I have to buy an EBook reader?
See the link on that page that says "Learn more"? It'll learn you
Really, an ebook is just a computer file. Different vendors will use different types of files depending on how dumb they are about DRM. The Google ones can be read with just about everything, including a PC with internet access.
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Nov. 25, 2011 7:22 p.m. Woody SuperDork
Keith wrote: The Google ones can be read with just about everything, including a PC with internet access.
Awesome! I have that!
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Nov. 25, 2011 10:31 p.m. Jim Pettengill HalfDork
Just for future use, my favorite source of used books is abebooks.com, which is sort of a service that connects you to thousands of used book dealers, worldwide. My wife and I have gotten some real bargains from Abe's, and can usually find just about anything. That said, a quick search for your Ferrari book only turned up just one copy (from literally thousands of dealers), and it's $148.
Maybe ebook is the way to go.
